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We have a small gun shop here outside of town looks like a run down gas station from the 70s doesnt get much traffic, well I went in there the other day and the owner had a whole bottom shelf full of cases of Remington 20 ga loads. Not sure what loads specifically they were or the price, my brother and I just go in there to check out the new in box vintage scopes he sells. Those old Japan built Tascos seem pretty decent for the price.