First 00 frame.

[Researcher]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

were there ever any 3 inch guns made with Damascus or composite steel barrels guns made...charlie

Possibly Chuck knows the answer to this.

Through the time 99.9% of Parker Bros. composite barrel guns had been made, the heaviest loads (1 1/4-ounce in 12-gauge) our ammunition companies offered could be had in a 2 3/4-inch shell. The perceived advantage of the longer shells was more/better wadding, something considered beneficial by many gun cranks and Pigeon shooters. I'm sure there would have been composite barrel 12-gauge guns ordered for the 2 7/8-, 3- and 3 1/4-inch 12-gauge hulls, but I don't have any facts as to such Parler Bros. guns.

The 12-gauge, 3-inch, progressive burning powder loads with 1 3/8-ounce of shot hit the market in the 1924/5 time frame --

Early style 12-gauge 3-in Super-X Record.jpg

No telling what loads nimrods were stuffing in any length hull, especially before the early 1890s when our ammunition companies first began offering factory loaded shotgun shells.

I've long questioned Murphy's 3 1/2-inch 10-gauge, as 3 1/4-inch is the longest 10-gauge cases I've found offered by any of our ammunition companies before 1932.

[Bill Murphy]

The letter clearly says 3 1/2". It didn't come with any ammunition.

[charlie cleveland]

I have a parker brothers brass shell that is 3 1/4 inches long and 2 umc brass hulls that are 4 inch all of these are 12 ga... I have a box of those 3 inch 1 3/8 ounce shells like you have showing...collecting old ammo is a good habit like parkers are...both together keeps me broke...charlie

[Hammer Gun]

Gentlemen the 20 gauge barrels 6999 have been reunited with the Cape gun 6999 as shown in the Parker Story pg 673, These barrels somehow found their way home! Soooo never give up trying, Gary

[Mills]

That is amazing and great! Another miracle in this group

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

It took me a while, Dean, but I found the pictures of the barrel set, 6999, which was one of the 20ga "small frame" guns. I no longer have them, but last I heard, the member who bought them from me was fitting them to Austin's 'small' gun. The picture I was looking for, and found showed my trammel calipers indicating .901" between centers, so roughly 1/32" smaller than the dimension which became the 00 frame centers. That gun must have been a joy to carry.
Interesting fact about 6999. It was originally a two barrel set, one being 20ga. SxS, the other being, If memory serves, .44WCF in the left and 20ga. in the right.

Edgar, you made reference here to "Austin's small gun" and I was wondering if Austin had more than one 20 gauge hammer gun?

The only one I'm aware of his ever owning one was from his story in Parker Pages Vol. 16, Issue 1, page 36, "A Tiny, Scarce and Interesting Parker Gun" serial number 17448 - is there another?





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[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Edgar, you made reference here to "Austin's small gun" and I was wondering if Austin had more than one 20 gauge hammer gun?

The only one I'm aware of his ever owning one was from his story in Parker Pages Vol. 16, Issue 1, page 36, "A Tiny, Scarce and Interesting Parker Gun" serial number 17448 is there another?

That question would be better answered by Gary, as he bought the barrels from me. I am very excited to hear Gary was able to track down 6999, and reunite the barrels with the gun and Cape barrels.

[Mills]

What condition are the barrels in and are they strong enough to shoot? I know at least one of the early 20 gauges had very thin walls and were found bulged at the chambers.

. . . 20 gauge barrels for 6999, that is