First 00 frame.

Dean Romig · 03-12-2022, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

So were those guns mentioned stamped 00? Or just measured to the frame size?

No, those early 20 gauge Lifters were not stamped with a frame size and the measurement between firing pin centers was actually a bit smaller than the published dimensions of the 28 gauge guns that were stamped 00 on the lug.

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edgarspencer · 03-13-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig

No, those early 20 gauge Lifters were not stamped with a frame size and the measurement between firing pin centers was actually a bit smaller than the published dimensions of the 28 gauge guns that were stamped 00 on the lug.

It took me a while, Dean, but I found the pictures of the barrel set, 6999, which was one of the 20ga "small frame" guns. I no longer have them, but last I heard, the member who bought them from me was fitting them to Austin's 'small' gun. The picture I was looking for, and found showed my trammel calipers indicating .901" between centers, so roughly 1/32" smaller than the dimension which became the 00 frame centers. That gun must have been a joy to carry.
Interesting fact about 6999. It was originally a two barrel set, one being 20ga. SxS, the other being, If memory serves, .44WCF in the left and 20ga. in the right.

Bruce Hering · 03-14-2022, 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=edgarspencer;
Interesting fact about 6999. It was originally a two barrel set, one being 20ga. SxS, the other being, If memory serves, .44WCF in the left and 20ga. in the right.[/QUOTE]

Now that is a neat set of barrels. I wonder what the owner used them for....

edgarspencer · 03-14-2022, 08:12 AM

See page 673 in TPS for the gun with both barrels. Sad that it got separated

Bill Murphy · 03-14-2022, 08:42 AM

"A joy to carry" would be the pair of 000 frame 28 gauges displayed by one of our members at the Ohio Gun Collectors PGCA meeting several years ago. One was a AAHE and one was an AHE. The owner was a neighbor of mine and he allowed me to measure the pin separation. They were legitimate 000 frames and the guns appeared to be all factory. Nope, didn't record the serial numbers.

Pa SxS · 03-14-2022, 10:51 AM

Edgar, are you absolutely sure of the .901? Just asking for a friend!

edgarspencer · 03-14-2022, 01:33 PM

You have a friend?
Absolutely? Only as well as I got the points in the center of the primers.

Dean Romig · 03-24-2022, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer

It took me a while, Dean, but I found the pictures of the barrel set, 6999, which was one of the 20ga "small frame" guns. I no longer have them, but last I heard, the member who bought them from me was fitting them to Austin's 'small' gun. The picture I was looking for, and found showed my trammel calipers indicating .901" between centers, so roughly 1/32" smaller than the dimension which became the 00 frame centers. That gun must have been a joy to carry.
Interesting fact about 6999. It was originally a two barrel set, one being 20ga. SxS, the other being, If memory serves, .44WCF in the left and 20ga. in the right.

Edgar, you made reference here to "Austin's small gun" and I was wondering if Austin had more than one 20 gauge hammer gun?

The only one I'm aware of his ever owning one was from his story in Parker Pages Vol. 16, Issue 1, page 36, "A Tiny, Scarce and Interesting Parker Gun" serial number 17448 - is there another?

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edgarspencer · 03-24-2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Edgar, you made reference here to "Austin's small gun" and I was wondering if Austin had more than one 20 gauge hammer gun?

The only one I'm aware of his ever owning one was from his story in Parker Pages Vol. 16, Issue 1, page 36, "A Tiny, Scarce and Interesting Parker Gun" serial number 17448 is there another?

That question would be better answered by Gary, as he bought the barrels from me. I am very excited to hear Gary was able to track down 6999, and reunite the barrels with the gun and Cape barrels.