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Unread 02-12-2022, 03:54 PM   #1
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The "Titanic" marking on the rib is way out of character with the surrounding legend.
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It suddenly dawns on me that the RKS on the right barrel flat and the partial P on the left are vestiges of PARKER GUN WORKS OVERLOAD PROVED stamp --

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which apparently was mostly removed.
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The "Titanic" marking on the rib is way out of character with the surrounding legend.
Bill is correct. And why would a 242 thousand Remington Parker have any barrel rib markings ?

We know that in the 242 range there were guns assembled from remainder components after the close of production . These guns are not in the serial number records and tended to be higher grade and unusual in some way . Larry DelGrego Sr assembled some of these into the 1950’s and I understand others were done at the nearby Lefever shop.

The triplet blonde C grades cased together come to mind. They were owned by Bill Sefken and sold to I don’t know whom now.
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The "Titanic" marking on the rib is way out of character with the surrounding legend.

The legend on some, if not most, ventilated ribs were hand engraved rather than roll-stamped.This appears to be an example of that. And you can see that there was a word, mostly polished out, beneath the engraved TITANIC.





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Picky, picky, picky. From a purely collectors view point, probably not a gun you'd be interested in. From a shooters stand point, you'd be lucky to own this gun and should thank Del Grego for all his hard work.
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Picky, picky, picky. From a purely collectors view point, probably not a gun you'd be interested in. From a shooters stand point, you'd be lucky to own this gun and should thank Del Grego for all his hard work.

True. Many of these late guns will make a person go weak in the knees.
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The original poster asked for our opinion, then stated that all finishes look original. I think he has had the course. I will add that the finish on the barrel flat is a bit rough and that I have never seen a gun that late with the serial number in that location on the barrel lug. I think it is a leftover set of barrels or an unfinished set installed by Lefever or just possibly, Del Grego.
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Picky, picky, picky. From a purely collectors view point, probably not a gun you'd be interested in. From a shooters stand point, you'd be lucky to own this gun and should thank Del Grego for all his hard work.
While I prefer all original I could live with this gun . I kinda like target guns be it SBT , skeet guns , pigeon guns or double traps . Have everything covered except a double trap , perhaps down the road . But if I were shooting a trap doubles event I wouldn’t feel handicapped using either of my so called pigeon guns .
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Mike, Del Grego's colors were mostly done at the Arms and the appearance depends on the day of the week. Not a criticism, because I love all my Del Grego and Remington guns. This is a Del Grego gun.
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