Two old guys, two old 10 Bores, 10 birds in the boat

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

It was under the collectible guns category on GB guy wanted $1200 looked like a good buy. Weren't they built by H&R under the supervision of Westley Richard's? I didn't realize until recently WR were still building A&D actions

Yes from little I know WR granted a license to use the A&D hammerless design and build the guns in the Worcester MA H&R factory. It's believed that it took two years to set up the factory for the production which started circa 1883 and that Mr. Anson and Mr. Deeley were there to supervise/train. It's thought production lasted two years or little more and only 2500 to 3000 guns in 10 and 12 gauge were produced in four grades, A-D. They are not what you would expect from H&R, they are a fine gun and probably the first self cocking hammerless double built in the US. There are others on the board who know more than I, a lot of what I know about them came from the book, "Birth of the Boxlock".

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

Yes from little I know WR granted a license to use the A&D hammerless design and build the guns in the Worcester MA H&R factory. It's believed that it took two years to set up the factory for the production which started circa 1883 and that Mr. Anson and Mr. Deeley were there to supervise/train. It's thought production lasted two years or little more and only 2500 to 3000 guns in 10 and 12 gauge were produced in four grades, A-D. They are not what you would expect from H&R, they are a fine gun and probably the first self cocking hammerless double built in the US. There are others on the board who know more than I, a lot of what I know about them came from the book, "Birth of the Boxlock".

I remember reading a detailed thread about them on here years ago but dont remember much of it. I would think it was probably expensive build here in the US, I read Colt ran into a similar problem with their 1883 producing about 6000 of them.