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Originally Posted by John Dallas
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Not where I come from. Sorry not drinking the Punch. We had grouse before we were over run with turkeys. Not to say turkeys are the only reason grouse are long gone. Hawks and owls now have had protection so long that the impact they have is huge. Ask ANYONE who raises quail, pheasants or runs a bird hunting preserve. Oh they may not come clean to just anybody because it’s not PC and they don’t care to start the pissing match. They may then feel compelled to tell you how these things are dealt with minus the 25 year government study.
Something else hard to find is a kid that traps, another casualty to a PC world.
WNV, I do believe it has impact in some areas and some years, but it doesn’t effect just grouse. It doesn’t affect grouse at all in my area because there are zero. Lack of cover, I don’t buy into that either. There are many of us that are over 50 that could show you cover, young mixed disturbed, logged, green briar edged crab apple thickets and grape vine cover up against umbrella pines. 0 grouse for 30 years.
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