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Hey JD how about closing this thread... It's getting real old. Eric
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Hey Eric, I know when I don't want to look at something any more, I don't look at it anymore. I do that instead of asking somebody else to prevent me or anybody else from looking at it anymore. But maybe that is a personal freedom matter that folks are not capable of handling.
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There you go Bruce "flame me " if you want, I am just getting real tired of you trying to prove you are the only person that is "right".
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This thread may or may not have 'run its course' but I think we are gathering some good information that will help us expand FAQ #32 which I'm sure even Ribin will agree is lacking a lot of very accurate and useful information that probably everybody can benefit from. But a lot of the information in the is there for the "newbies" especially so when useful information is added to FAQ #32 is will be fact and not opinion. A lot of very useful facts have been posted on this thread and more is likely to surface here so I don't think this thread should be closed.
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If usefull facts are being found in this thread then I will take back my "close this thread". I'll just stay out of the fray. Eric
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In a nutshell the way I see things it's a question; should the brand new owner of a Parker shotgun, one who is unfamiliar with classic doubles, treat it like an off the shelf Remington 870, Ruger O&U and the like WRT ammunition or should they recognize it is an antiquity and in some regards MAY be more fragile. I think the majority opinion here is to treat it more gently. One could say or reference that many members of this group have and do shoot modern heavy loads through many solid Parker's and have for many years without incident. In turn it can also be stated that many members here have enjoyed a great performance on clays and game using light loads. In all cases prior to shooting their new to them Parker it should be evaluated by a knowledgable and competent gunsmith. The advice to keep one's loads light remains good advice on the side of caution but the choice of ammunition for a sound gun is personal.
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Just one final thought, as I consider most all of the gents who have posted herein to be Parker friends--we don't want to see our PGCA Forum turn into the aparent nastiness if not downright rudeness we can see on other double gun oriented (but not paid membership) forums. No good can come of that.
I read with great interest Calvin's post and his comment about 'excuses" being a lot like noses, we all seem to have one. This can surface just as well in a bowling alley on league night, on a 18 hole golf course, as well as on a SC, skeet or trap field. It's human nature to want to make every shot count, and especially on the game birds we hunt in season, we all want clean kills and no cripples to escape and feed the "Airborne Prize Patrols" either. So if we miss clean or pull feathers from a hauling-bass Rooster in a heavy wind, and we are using a shotgun with which we are quite familiar, we wonder "Howcome"--and think perhaps about choke or shotload changes. No man hits 100% of what he shoots at with any shotgun, just as you don't sit all night at the poker table and hit full houses and four of a kind hands one after the other- The other day I was out on a river after late season Geese- M12 3" and Federal steel BB's- four came banking around the bend, and flared, I shot about three neck lengths ahead of the lead bird (est 25 yard overhead shot, he never slowed down a hair- but the third bird in the formation shuddered in mid-flight and I hit him dead center with the second shot- a lesson to be learned every time we venture afield. My waterfowling mentor as a lad, besides my Grandfather, father and uncles- shot a 30" Full M1897 Pigeon Grade for everything, including box pigeons for dinero (but not Capt. Harold Money, alas) one told me that if you get one dead in hand duck for every three shells, you are way above average (including finishing crips) and one mallard for two shells- you are in the expert ranks. |
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If a FAQ answer could be put together along those lines, I'd be happy. And if the answer could reference Parker load tables, even happier. |
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