breeding purebred English setters has evolved Mike and the people you are getting advise from are two of the worst. the Ryman Setter group was formed to educate and inform customers and breeders about the Best Practices. Perhaps you should do your due diligence and get the proper health clearances like reputable breeders. You should at least suggest ALL buyers get health insurance on their pups. Bilateral hip and elbow dysplasia is very real and very expensive to correct. I had a dog from Royal sterling (dysplastic hips at 2 years old) and another from Brigit that was Dysplastic as well. this is VERY REAL regardless what you were told. its ok if you "Dont care" what I think but crippled dogs suffer and that's what concerns me.
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