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Fiocchi- stout loads indeed.
Unread 12-14-2010, 10:53 PM   #1
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Default Fiocchi- stout loads indeed.

Fine shells BUT IMO- better suited for a modern era gas operated autoloader- A 1905 DH 12- the chokes were honed out and Briley thinwall screw in chokes installed, correct? But your fine Parker was built when paper shells were the norm, we were slowly moving from black powder into the smokeless powder shells- older style primers, waddding, crimps and possibly 2 &5/8" chambers.

I concurr with brother Lester about recoil and the wood at the critical stock head area- I'd stick with my favorite combo in my 12 GHE No. 2 frame Parker- 28" Imp. Cyl. and Mod.-- I use a 1 & 1/8th AA std. Trap load (not Handicap) 1150-1200 FPS range in the right barrel, and the same load in the left if shooting over a close working tight holding pointing dog- if over my Lab or with another friend with a flush dog, then I use some of my older Rem Express paper 1 & 1/4 oz. No. 6 shells in the left barrel.

What choke combinations do you plan to use in the DH with the Brileys? Kansas birds in Dec. snowstorm- I've heard that real cold weather may affect shotgun shells- but I have no direct knowlege of that.

Have a good trip- hope you get into some birds- maybe some fotos afterwards with the DH 12 as a "bonus"??
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...I've heard that real cold weather may affect shotgun shells- but I have no direct knowlege of that.
I have hunted upland birds at -30 celsius (22 below F) and not had issues with various brands of shot shells over the years.

Back in paper days, some did swell on the miserable driving rain days for migratory birds. "Miserable" is a bit harsh, as those were the days we looked forward to for a great shoot. (That was in my youth. A warm fire, and SMS shared with other old geezers seems more civilized now )
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Jack- thanks! Sounds like old Ned Hall's wisdom--
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Default Jack- thanks! Sounds like old Ned Hall's wisdom--

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I have hunted upland birds at -30 celsius (22 below F) and not had issues with various brands of shot shells over the years.

Back in paper days, some did swell on the miserable driving rain days for migratory birds. "Miserable" is a bit harsh, as those were the days we looked forward to for a great shoot. (That was in my youth. A warm fire, and SMS shared with other old geezers seems more civilized now )
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Yessiree- and if you are hosting, and SMS means what I take it to me (McCallan?) I'm there. In Robert Ruark's classic "The Old Man and The Boy" his maternal grandfather, Ned Hall- often expressed that love of the warm fire and a toddy over taking a limit of ducks in a raging storm--

I look forward to our late Bonus 30 day season on Canadas- if it is not way too cold, and our rivers haven't frozen shut- 'tighter than Dick's hatband' to use a Ruark expression-- I usually use the "black ops. Mossenburgher 835 pump and 3" Federal steelies OO buck. Never have had a "fail to fire" yet, and if I steer it right, usually hear the bang- followed by the crash-thump of a Canada coming down-- I usually fill the Thermos with hot chocolate rather than coffee, and "dress warm, boy- dress warm"

Ruark's great story about "It takes a duck to know a duck"-- the breakfast where his Grandpa cooks the fried eggs in the toasted bread- one of my boyhood favorites--
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Francis: You do have a clear understanding of "civilised".
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any factory load of the majorammo companys will be stout in presure and recoil in the 1 1/4 ounce loads...you want know any differance ina 1 3/8 or a 1 1/2 ounce load....as said youll probably get by shooting the loads....its not the amount of lead in the shell that kills its the man who has been practicing before the hunt.....i like the screw in chokes yuumentioned...makes for an all around gun..... charlie
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