thanks ken for the info on the rifle versus shotgun very interesting...i figure this info is pretty correct...i have fired many heavy loads in shotguns i agree on the weight factor...the hardest kicking shotgun i ever shot was a new england 3 1/2 inch single barrel 12 ga...this gun will get you to flinching in a short while... i guess a 338 winchester magnum is the biggest and kickingest rifle i ever shot...i forgot one of those old spanish 10 ga s kicked like a mule too but the new england 12 ga gun was the worst recoil in guns i have...charlie
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