O Frame vs 1 Frame Question

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Not in 28 gauge but there is in .410...






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Are you sure about that?

[mobirdhunter]

The 28 gauge is an original Parker. Maybe it is an 00 with lightening cuts, now that you mention it. If they never made a 28 000, then it's an 00 with lightening cuts. Sorry! I should know better than use my memory with this crowd of experts. Didn't mean to misrepresent something, but was only trying to show the "visual" differences.

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

The 28 gauge is an original Parker.

But, to Dean's point, is it on a 000-frame?

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Are you sure about that?

Yes, again, only to the best of my knowledge.





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[stumpstalker]

Here are PGCA Research Letters on two VH 16-gauge guns.

The 1907 0-frame has an Order Book No. 74 “requested” weight of 6 ¼ to 6 ¾ pounds.

The 1925 1-framed gun the Stock Book No. 75 “specifies” a 6 pounds 8 ounces gun.

On my postal scale I am looking at about 6 ¼ pounds for the 0-frame and 6 ¾ for the 1-frame, so ½ pound difference.

Karl: I discern a visual difference in the two receivers, and slight weight difference overall.

As for balance, no difference; maybe because the two-inch longer barreled 1-frame has barrels struck more “flared” (or swamped?)-looking toward the breach.

Alfred’s postulate about “a little extra attention” with the 0-frames motivated me to compare the two guns in that regard. The 0-frame wood is without question reasonably interesting on both sides; and the 1-frame definitely less interesting on the left side and very plain on the right.

I exact additional dividends from my gun purchases when these questions are raised. Thanks.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Russell E. Cleary

The 1907 0-frame has an Order Book No. 74 “requested” weight of 6 ¼ to 6 ¾ pounds.

The 1925 1-framed gun the Stock Book No. 75 “specifies” a 6 pounds 8 ounces gun.

On my postal scale I am looking at about 6 ¼ pounds for the 0-frame and 6 ¾ for the 1-frame, so ½ pound difference.

I see that the 0-frame gun weighs at exactly the minimum of the requested weight range and the 1-frame gun comes in 4 ounces above the maximum of the requested weight range - so, it seems to me they both should have been made on the 0-frame.





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