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Phil, I've loaded both #9 & #10 2 1/2 410 and have had wonderful results at the dairy. I think Dale has a bag of #10. I'll talk him out of it and duplicate the load you shot at the Goodyear dairy. Ill give you a couple boxes. The only catch is you'll have to come shoot with us and have a great time! I'll extend the same offer to you also Chris!