Steel or blued damascus ?

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

What Brian said. Atlas Arms in Chicago (and others) offered replacement barrels for Smith and Parker guns using tubes made by Vickers (England) and fit and finished by Armaf in Belgium. These barrels have a 1954 proof date code. Courtesy of Jim Akins.



and semi-finished barrels



A 10g Smith rebarreled to 3 1/2" in 1954

I have never heard of this before , thanks for teaching me something new .
Seems like putting a set of 10 ga 3.5" barrels on a gun that originally had 2 7/8" chambers would be pretty rough on the wood and joints . Interesting nonetheless !

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

Seems like putting a set of 10 ga 3.5" barrels on a gun that originally had 2 7/8" chambers would be pretty rough on the wood and joints . Interesting nonetheless !

Keep in mind that Parker Brothers would never have built a gun that would compromise the health and safety of a user of their product or the product itself, nor would they produce anything that would compromise their reputation.





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[Milton C Starr]

I see its still up for sale , Any thoughts on the quality of those barrels ?
Im wondering if it would make a good field gun that would provide years of service . I emailed pugs but never heard back from them perhaps they dont answer gmail emails .

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

I see its still up for sale , Any thoughts on the quality of those barrels ?
Im wondering if it would make a good field gun that would provide years of service . I emailed pugs but never heard back from them perhaps they dont answer gmail emails .

Buy it and find out.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Buy it and find out.

Its just theres alot of nice 10 gauge options around that price range , makes it hard to narrow down which one I like the most . My #1 pick is about 2000$ more than I will probably be able to spend but its also possible I could save up the extra however its has quite a few cracks in the wrist area . One runs what looks horizontally through the wrist on the left side and a crack that runs vertically on the right side .

[Bill Murphy]

In addition to Armaf barrels in the 60's, Frank Lefever and Son rebarreled Parkers with original Parker barrels, as well as sleeving Parkers to same, larger or smaller gauges. My DH ten gauge 3 1/2" Parker was sleeved by Lefever from a #3 frame 12 gauge and is an excellent job. The original 12 was ordered and built at ten pounds, a rare heavyweight in its original configuration. The rib inscription was changed to "Lefever Steel" and is indistinguishable from original Parker work. The original Parker barrels used by Lefever were sold off several years ago by Ron Petersen and have been tossed to the winds. They appear for sale occasionally, but are 12 gauge, not 10.

[Bill Murphy]

Jeff, when the gun was in your hands, did the barrels appear to be ARMAF or some other identifiable make? Were the chambers 3 1/2"? Why did you return the gun to Puglisi's?

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

In addition to Armaf barrels in the 60's, Frank Lefever and Son rebarreled Parkers with original Parker barrels, as well as sleeving Parkers to same, larger or smaller gauges. My DH ten gauge 3 1/2" Parker was sleeved by Lefever from a #3 frame 12 gauge and is an excellent job. The original 12 was ordered and built at ten pounds, a rare heavyweight in its original configuration. The rib inscription was changed to "Lefever Steel" and is indistinguishable from original Parker work. The original Parker barrels used by Lefever were sold off several years ago by Ron Petersen and have been tossed to the winds. They appear for sale occasionally, but are 12 gauge, not 10.

Pugs has it listed as 3" chambers but that could be a slight oversight .
They have two 10 ga 3 1/2" magnums but they are Parker lifters with damascus barrels .
I have seen a Westley Richards 12 ga I want to say it was one of their A&D sxs from the 1890s , that they rebarreled from 12 ga to 10 gauge but it was built on a 12 ga frame .