10 gauge on #2 frame ?

[Bill Murphy]

You had best slow down with your check writing. The gunbroker guns are not good guns, regardless of price. Next, be aware that the barrel width of an eight or a ten is determined by frame size. Each frame size is different and width of each frame size is the same if the frame size is the same. All dimensions of frames are in a chart in The Parker Story. I have never seen a #3 frame eight gauge, nor have I seen a #6 frame hammer gun. I have seen a #5 frame hammer gun but it was very early and an oddball. You can tell whether such a thing is possible by measuring the base of the eight gauge shell and knowing the width of a #3 frame gun. Will two of the shells fit with room in the middle? There is your answer about the possibility of such an animal.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

You had best slow down with your check writing. The gunbroker guns are not good guns, regardless of price. Next, be aware that the barrel width of an eight or a ten is determined by frame size. Each frame size is different and width of each frame size is the same if the frame size is the same. All dimensions of frames are in a chart in The Parker Story. I have never seen a #3 frame eight gauge, nor have I seen a #6 frame hammer gun. I have seen a #5 frame hammer gun but it was very early and an oddball. You can tell whether such a thing is possible by measuring the base of the eight gauge shell and knowing the width of a #3 frame gun. Will two of the shells fit with room in the middle? There is your answer about the possibility of such an animal.

Oh im not writing any checks soon im just browsing the market to see whats available . I can pm the serial # for the #6 8 gauge hammer gun I am looking at .
I was just wondering how big of a 10 gauge frame a #3 was . I have seen some of the spanish sxs 10s bored to 8 and some of the old h&r 10s bored to 8 gauge which i believe had around a 1.250 barrel diameter at the breach is why I was asking what the barrel diameter was for the 10 ga barrels on the #3s .These are pretty straight barrels however and not really tapered much at all like you see on a nice sxs .

I was just thinking if parker had the barrels materials we have today then they probably could have built a 8 gauge on a #3 frame unless the barrels are less than 1.250 or 1.350"

So the #4 frame would be considered a heavy 10 ga ?

I just been trying to find info on all the different frames parker built 10 gauges on . I cant find any pictures of a 10 on the #4 , #5 , and #7 frame sizes .

[Milton C Starr]

I didnt mean to say it was a good idea or anything like that just I have seen done before .

[Bill Murphy]

You are misunderstanding me. A #3 frame is the same size no matter what gauge it is. The barrel diameter at the breech is the same for a ten or an eight, assuming the frame size is the same. Check the chart in TPS. Stand two shells side by side, base down, and measure. That will answer most, if not all, of your questions. To answer your question about the #4 frame ten and whether it is considered heavy, consider this. A #2, #3, #4, or a #6 frame ten is usually heavy, some heavier than others. Our members own #6 frame tens and will probably share their weights with you.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

You are misunderstanding me. A #3 frame is the same size no matter what gauge it is. The barrel diameter at the breech is the same for a ten or an eight, assuming the frame size is the same. Check the chart in TPS. Stand two shells side by side, base down, and measure. That will answer most, if not all, of your questions. To answer your question about the #4 frame ten and whether it is considered heavy, consider this. A #2, #3, #4, or a #6 frame ten is usually heavy, some heavier than others. Our members own #6 frame tens and will probably share their weights with you.

Sorry if I was getting confused, what I was trying to say for example if you built a 12 ga on say a #3 it would have thicker walls than a 10 ga since on the #3 frame size . Like a 16 gauge if built on a #3 frame would have even thicker chamber walls . I was asking if the #3 frame if fitted with 8 ga barrels would the chamber walls be too thin ?
I was just thinking of the soanish 10 bores some have bored to 8 gauge . They have plenty of chamber thickness but you run into barrel wall thinness. I was just wondering parker frame is large like the later 10 ga magnum frames . I read ithaca beefed up their nid frame when clambering for the 10 ga 3.5 . I have seen 12s built on 16 frame sizes and 16s built on 20ga frame sizes. I was thinking it would be possible to do the same with a 8 ga on a 10 frame . Just hypothetical speaking here . I was wondering if parker ever done it . I was thinking the #3 could be considered a small frame 10 ga frame compared to other sxs 10 gauges .