Parker Trojan SN 165230

[John Stickney]

I have a Parker Trojan SN 165230, 20ga, 28" barrels. Can anyone supply any additional information? The Photo Link has all the markings I could find on the shotgun for reference.


Thanks!

[mobirdhunter]

Looks like an earlier gun with the rib extension.

[OH Osthaus]

what else would you like to know?

there are surviving records for a letter, but details on the Trojan grade might be limited

[John Stickney]

This firearm has been in our family for a long time and I have no desire to part with it. I'm curious as to its value for insurance reasons and was a little confused about the Grade of the shotgun because the markings on the receiver did not match anything I saw on this web site. Also, on the receiver it was accidentally double stamped with "Parker Brothers" and some other text and I didn't know if that would increase its value since that would be a unique feature...kind of like double stamped coins.

[B. Dudley]

If you want insurance value, the blue book is good for that.

[mobirdhunter]

John, I'm not sure I understand the reference to double stamping, but your gun looks like a sound, well used trojan -- and an early one. Except for the rib extension, I did not see anything extraordinary or especially unique, but it looks like the screws are good and generally timed, and that the finish -- well worn -- appears original. It's looks like a nice gun, and since it's a 20 gauge, more desirable. I'd sure advise membership as the next step for you...and then get a letter on the gun if you want something to support an insurance policy. If you check the various double gun sales websites -- I'd recommend "guns international" as a good place to start -- you can begin to see what people are asking for Parker's lowest grade gun in similar condition. There are still lots of things about your gun that can only be determined with the gun in hand.

It's a very nice gun, and a family heirloom. Enjoy it!

[John Stickney]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

John, I'm not sure I understand the reference to double stamping....

In IMG_3057.jpg if you zoom in on the receiver near the bottom of the photo you can see where they stamped "PARKER BROTHERS" and it is like they hit it once, slipped, then hit it again. I tried to link the image above, hope it worked.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by John Stickney

In IMG_3057.jpg if you zoom in on the receiver near the bottom of the photo you can see where they stamped "PARKER BROTHERS" and it is like they hit it once, slipped, then hit it again. I tried to link the image above, hope it worked.

John, I think I see it, but it is barely discernible to me. I don't recall that any such stamping was more highly valued, but I'd leave that to those with more expertise than I. Again, it looks to be sound and original -- as much as one can tell from photos -- and not anything unusual or unique relative to collector value. If you can get some reliable barrel measurements for the chambers, bore and minimal wall thickness at various points, it could be suggestive of the originality of your gun. Since it's been in your family, it's likely all original, unless of course a previous family member took it to the local gunsmith to have the chambers and forcing cones lengthened or the barrels lopped off to open the chokes (all of which would devalue the gun somewhat). With American guns, "pure" collectors value originality and condition above all, unless there is some unique provenance to the gun. Shooter-collectors, and you will find many here, like to be able to shoot their Parkers and not hurt the condition of them in doing so.

I sure like the pictures you posted and would enjoy shooting a nice, well kept trojan 20 such as that family gun of yours. Thanks for posting the pictures.

[Dean Romig]

The double stamp doesn’t affect the gun’s value one way or the other. We’ve seen that often enough before.

It’s a decent Trojan but certainly not high condition - it’s about average.



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[TxHuntermn]

The die just hopped between hammer blows