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			Thanks.  I never  considered a card on top of the wad. I will try cutting back some also.  I wasn’t to Concerned about speed and leads to mess with my head but missing straight away and incoming targets at a short distance makes me think there’s something wrong with my loads.
 
 As far as  components  , magtech brass, circle fly 11ga 1/8” nitro card, circle fly 11ga 1/2” no lube fiber wad
 Chadditte paper, 13ga circle fly 1/8  nitro card, 13 ga 1/2” fiber wad.
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