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I have a gun with a 3" DAH and a 1 7/8" DAC. Also, the LOP was short. I fought trying to shoot it with just a slip on pad to increase the LOP. I finally shot it with the slip on pad and put the Berettta gel pad on it. The gel pad covered a little bit of the slip on pad. For me, this combination worked extremely well. The gel pad didn't move and came off easily. Now I need to see if the stock can be bent!