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Seems to me with my 1 1/8 ounce loads I use three of the 16 gauge 1/8” card wads in the bottom and a 10 gauge overshot card even though I use a folded crimp . Incidentally there’s 18.6 grains of Red Dot beneath the SP-10 wad . This rather light load rolls up skeet and trap targets with ease . It also does a good job on dove .