Good ol UPS

[Old and Reliable]

You don't need to be either a "Plummer" aka- Christopher, or a "Plumber" which comes not from Plumb, Level and in Square- but from Pb or Plumbe- the Latin word for lead- as were the original feed and possibly drain pipes for older houses- we all know Lead is a "No-No' for paint, and unfortunately, also for hunting dem ol' webfeets-

Pipe schedule is a numerical scale, just as are the gauges of our beloved shotty-guns-, but in reverse- Schedule 80 has a greater wall thickness than Schedule 40-- 20 is a higher number than 12, but we all know which number represents the larger bore dia. in a scattergun-

I use nothing but PVC schedule 80 pipe with appropriate sized caps for shipping barrels, or any other tubular object and wrap the item(s) with bubble wrap, and pad both ends. Lowe's, Home Depot or any quality builder's suppy outfit should have schedule 80 PVC- or they can get it for you- usually comes in 10 ft. lengths- according to my ASTM sheet, Code D-1785- a 3" I.D. schedule 40 PVC pipe will have a nom. wall thickness of 1/4"- so the O.D. is then 3 & 1/2"- and then the Cap I.D. would be the same- BUT schedule 80 has a nom. wall thickness of 3/8" so the O.D. is then 3 & 3/4"- I can also check the crush strength ratings in PSI for both 40 and 80 if you'd like-

Calvin- you were lucky that the barrels weren't damaged- under normal conditions your packaging process would have been A-OK- but with the "Fragile" tag- sorta like a red flag in front of a angry bull-

[Pa SxS]

Harry and Francis, thanks for your reply to a non-plumber and Christopher Plummer is a fine actor.

One last question, can I get the pipe in damascus PVC or do I have to stick with fluid PVC?

[Harry Collins]

Chuck,

I have bent a lot of PVC. You put it in a long rectangular box with heating elements and turn it until you think it is flexable enough to get the bend you want. I've had some come out looking like it was Damascus and or twist.

Harry

[Dean Romig]

[QUOTE=Chuck Bishop;25795]Harry and Francis, thanks for your reply to a non-plumber and Christopher Plummer is a fine actor.QUOTE]

Well and good, but the question remains..... Who is Joseph Plummer???

[Old and Reliable]

Or perhaps the Mid-Western rust belt Stater - Joe The Plumber- election year 2008-- his "Warhol-ian 15 minutes of Fame"?? Amazing isn't it what the change of one letter can do- change the second "m" into a "b" and you have a skilled tradesman who maybe makes as much as the fabled Philadelphia lawyer- and has to put his hands into the same messy goo (clogged drains or a bitter divorce perhaps?) in the course of a day's work.

When I was welding schedule pipe in the power plant, the fitters were akin to Master Plumbers- and it takes years of practice to joint and prepare pipe correctly- just as few rookie welders on API can run the "Arkansas bellhole" first shot out of the box--

Now as for Damascus PVC- no matter the schedule- if Lowe's or Home Deport or Handy Andy Plumbing Supply opens a branch in Syria, there's where I'd place my order for such a "special item"-- But I concur, just as the old saying "A good gun deserves a good case"- it would only be fit and proper to ship those fine Bernard barrels from your 12 ga. CH(E) in a Damascus PVC tube--

[Pa SxS]

Hell, I don't know who Joseph Plummer is but he might be a 10th cousin to Obama just like Palin and Limbaugh!

I'm currently Googling to find the schedule for the PVC 80 pipe. I guess you can only buy it during certain times of the day, therefore they need a schedule.

[Old and Reliable]

Chuck- I'll check my shop inventory for you- I may have an extra capped PVC tube- just need to know your barrel length- as John Dunkle has now added the "Give-Away" section as well as the Parkers for sale for members of the PGCA- we can now swap, barter or give to brother members misc. items- If I read John's post correctly, we are allowed to recover exact shipping cost. Advise

[Marc Retallack]

Hi Chuck,

If you should happen to find the local Home Depot or Lowes doesn't have Schedule 80, try R.F. Fager's. I assume the one on Derry St. (564-1166) would be the closest for you. If you're closer to Camp Hill, their main location is on State Rd (761-0660).

Cheers
Marcus

[Old and Reliable]

Just received back a 12 ejector LC Smith I loaned to a new friend I made at the June "Yooper Shoot" in MI UP- Arnold is familiar as both a shooter, collector and gunsmith with many European sidelock action shotguns, but had not yet examined an LC Smith. I also loaned him a spare copy of the Brophy book published by Brownell's in 1981 on the specs. and parts schematics for various "Elsies"- both were shipped UPS insured ground rate from Iron Mt. Wed. 10/13/2010 and arrived safely at my home address today 10-15- safe and sound- so UPS does get it 'right" sometimes. The Smith was in a Dokosil padded case and then wrapped in heavy cardboard by the shipper, the book wrapped also in heavy cardboard- BUT- Murphy's Law does prevail at times, to wit: "A three thousand dollar PCB will blow in line to prevent a .30 fuse from blowing, due to a power surge" or-- "the odds of a heavy jellied piece of toast landing jelly side down is in direct proportion to the value of the carpeting upon which it lands"--

Sooooo!- You ship a 12 ga. 870 back to Remington for warranty repair work, and it goes through smooth as silk- but your Purdey best 12 you sent to Kirk Merrington-- well, maybe yes, and maybe no-- One of my good friends has some fine doubles and over-unders, and he will flat outright NOT ship, he will drive to whatever gun specialist with whom he is dealing at that point in time- Not all of us can do that however--