Parker small bore classification

[Dean Romig]

Can’t say much about the spacing of jail cell bars never having been close to them. But I imagine they look pretty close together from the inside... much like the spacing of sapling stems in a fine woodcock covert.






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[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Can’t say much about the spacing of jail cell bars never having been close to them. But I imagine they look pretty close together from the inside... much like the spacing of sapling stems in a fine woodcock covert.






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Never been behind bars myself. But toured an ICE facility that had temporary holding cells.

Actually I thought we were going into a woodcock den because that is what it felt and looked like but for some reason no woodcock were holding there. Did find some in another area that looked same as other cover thinking that was where grouse were holding, but it only had a few woodcock. Go figure.

[C.O.B.]

IF your going to use 1oz of shot in a 16 then you might as well carry a light 12. The only 12 I have hunted with in decades is a British light game gun and as it comes in under 6lbs I have only used RST 2 inch shells and 3/4 0Z of 7's.

I used to use #5 for pheasant way back in the day when we actually had pheasants but haven't used anything larger than 7's in a very long time.

Maybe we should think of the 16 as an in between bore, not a large bore but not really a small one either. It is however just about perfect.

[Tom Flanigan]

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson

IF your going to use 1oz of shot in a 16 then you might as well carry a light 12. The only 12 I have hunted with in decades is a British light game gun and as it comes in under 6lbs I have only used RST 2 inch shells and 3/4 0Z of 7's.

I used to use #5 for pheasant way back in the day when we actually had pheasants but haven't used anything larger than 7's in a very long time.

Maybe we should think of the 16 as an in between bore, not a large bore but not really a small one either. It is however just about perfect.

British light 12 bores are a whole different category. I consider the best London game guns to be unsurpassed in every way. The light 12's built by the best British makers and proofed for light loads are wonderful. I have a case of 12 bore Eley 2" shells (full 20 two piece boxes roll crimped) given to me by my grandfathers close friend. His name was Elliot Bell and he ordered a Purdey 2" game gun back in the twenties and killed a lot of game with it including pheasants. When he had the early stages of Alzheimer's, he gave me a case of 2" shells for the Purdey and a light Belgian guild gun that was his knockabout and rainy day gun. I never got the Purdey. His wife sold that even though they didn't need the money. He was the founder and owner of Business Week magazine and was the banking commissioner of New York state in the 30's. I had always hoped to get the Purdey since his only child was a girl not interested in guns, but it didn't happen.

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by Tom Flanigan

British light 12 bores are a whole different category. I consider the best London game guns to be unsurpassed in every way. The light 12's built by the best British makers and proofed for light loads are wonderful. I have a case of 12 bore Eley 2" shells (full 20 two piece boxes roll crimped) given to me by my grandfathers close friend. His name was Elliot Bell and he ordered a Purdey 2" game gun back in the twenties and killed a lot of game with it including pheasants. When he had the early stages of Alzheimer's, he gave me a case of 2" shells for the Purdey and a light Belgian guild gun that was his knockabout and rainy day gun. I never got the Purdey. His wife sold that even though they didn't need the money. He was the founder and owner of Business Week magazine and was the banking commissioner of New York state in the 30's. I had always hoped to get the Purdey since his only child was a girl not interested in guns, but it didn't happen.

Rich might have his gun..........

[Tom Flanigan]

Originally Posted by Eric Eis

Rich might have his gun..........

That would be wonderful. I'd like to know where that Purdey is and how Rich got it. If the gun is Elliot Bell's gun, I can share my reminisces of the man and his hunting with the Purdey. He lived on Quaker Hill in Pawling, NY and was the consummate sportsman. He also gave me his salmon flies. He was a close friend of Governor Thomas E. Dewey who was the Republican candidate for president in 1944 and 1948. Dewey also lived on Quaker Hill and was a friend of my grandfathers. I have hunted both their estates since I was a boy and have fond remanences of both men. Which Rich are you referring to?