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ive shot 12 ga 3 inch with the chamber mates in a 10 ga lc smith hammerless....they pattern very well and will kill a turkey stone dead at 50 steps....will put 13 pellets in a pepsi can at 55 yards...try this in your gunspatterning......charlie ps these were remington 3 inch no 4 shot 1 7/8 load....these gauge mates do work well... good hunting