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Mr. Davis, i find half the fun of shooting is telling them of course it's damascus,well you can't shoot it, please step back and we will see how it goes. You can't shoot a 10 ga. here it's too big, 1 oz. at 1150 and what are you shooting. Paul i am holding off on BP until they get used to what i am doing now and i usually shoot first and will wait for still damp day so it will hang.