Cartridge problem

[John Truitt]

I have witnessed this twice by other shooters and have it happened to myself.

all times were pierced primers.
One gun developed wood damage as a result of the above. the other two had pre existing wood issues which is what allowed the gas to escape down thru the trigger area vs blowing out a quarter panel/ stock head panel.

good idea to send her off for inspection/ repair.
the shells were all cheap shells but all had pierced primers.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

One gun developed wood damage as a result of the above. the other two had pre existing wood issues which is what allowed the gas to escape down thru the trigger area vs blowing out a quarter panel/ stock head panel.

The trigger area of the action is open to allow gasses to get there on all hammerless Parkers. Regardless of prior wood issues or not.

[John Truitt]

Brian,

Not questioning you. But if so why do some blow out quarter panels when they pierce primers.
Again not arguing.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by John Truitt

Brian,

Not questioning you. But if so why do some blow out quarter panels when they pierce primers.
Again not arguing.

Good question, and i was just about to go back and edit my post to explain this.

Earlier hammerless Parkers have hammers that have, what i like to call, a “horn” on the rear of them. This design required a good amount of wood to be removed behind the hammers which would create a good sized pocket in the wood behind each hammer in order for the hammers to draw back. Later on in hammerless manufacture (in the late teens i beleive), this “horn” was removed from the hamers. This made the hammers easier to manufacture and also the head of the stock easier to inlet. It eliminated those large packets from the stock head.

I would speculate that any stock cheeks getting blown off (i have seen examples of this about a dozen times, and repaired a few) are on earlier guns that have the inletted pocket.


And when it comes to the cheap wallyworld winchester/federal shells... you get what you pay for.

[John Truitt]

Thanks Brian. That makes sense.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

The trigger area of the action is open to allow gasses to get there on all hammerless Parkers. Regardless of prior wood issues or not.

Guess that is correct though. Gas operated semi autos develop enough pressure to work the action and all it takes is a small pin hole. Also makes sense since that pressure would build up since most of action is housed in stock head. That still sounds like a very rare occurrence like a lightening strike hitting something twice but guess it does happen.

When I was kid lifeguarding at a pool a storm came up and lightening struck the chain link fence. Pyrotenics with sparks flying all around the pool. Once was enough an luckily no one was injured and we had just gotten kids out. Two weeks later another thunderstorm comes up and we also get everyone under shelter away from the fences and sure enough the fence got hit again. Very strange given the terrain and all the tall trees by that pool for that to happen.

Sorry to hear that happened and glad nothing happened. I guess shooting gloves do make sense after all. Bruce you need to go buy a lottery ticket.