Gun Won't Open

[Harry Collins]

The gun was sent a shop to be tightened up after purchase. When my friend received it it would double when the rear trigger was pulled first due to the weak sear spring. I do have the top tang screw indexing. The last time I took it apart I looked for places on the stock where things might be galled or rubbed. No dice. I think I've narrowed it down to the Safety. When both hammers are released the Safety can not be returned to Safe. I can do that with other Parkers. I'll let you know.

Harry

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

The gun was sent a shop to be tightened up after purchase. When my friend received it it would double when the rear trigger was pulled first due to the weak sear spring.

As i thought... not an untouched gun. All bets are off as to what your issue could be.
You need to take a serious look at what was done to “tighten” the gun. In cases of breech setbacks, a lot of other things may need to be adjusted after the barrel fitment to make sure all works. A lot of times the gun not unhooking can be a problem after a serious setback.
As others have suggested, your issues is not one that can be diagnosed on the forum.

[Autumn Daze]

Harry, Is it possible to put a .010 shim under the top tang. Sounds like the inletting is a bit too deep.

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

The gun was sent a shop to be tightened up after purchase. When my friend received it it would double when the rear trigger was pulled first due to the weak sear spring. I do have the top tang screw indexing. The last time I took it apart I looked for places on the stock where things might be galled or rubbed. No dice. I think I've narrowed it down to the Safety. When both hammers are released the Safety can not be returned to Safe. I can do that with other Parkers. I'll let you know.

Harry

Harry,

I am sorry I gave the advice to reverse the trigger spring which I knew would work to allow the safety to reset and the gun to open. The smith who cranked the screws down so much that the wood was compressed probably created a hair-trigger on the front trigger, thus with a front trigger that was now pressing the sear, when the rear trigger was pulled on a loaded gun the barely engaging right barrel sear released. He obviously did not test fire the gun. Otherwise he would not have sent it out to possibly kill someone.

I know you did not over tighten as the "smith" did, so now with the spring reversed you should feel a little slack, which was not there before.

One thing that was not in the equation was if it was a replacement trigger, which had not been fitted to the gun. Slack between the triggers and the sears with the trigger spring reversed is not a bad thing. Obviously not the original design. No slack and pressing on the sears as you already know was bad. Hopefully there is now slack in the triggers.

I'll keep my useless advice to myself in the future when someone asks about a problem I have seen and leave it to the experts here. If it continues to double the sear/hammer mating may need to be recut. Very dangerous as we all know. Free advice is only worth what you pay for it and I regret posting.

[Southpaw]

[QUOTE=Jerry Harlow;236271



I'll keep my useless advice to myself in the future when someone asks about a problem I have seen and leave it to the experts here. If it continues to double the sear/hammer mating may need to be recut. Very dangerous as we all know. Free advice is only worth what you pay for it and I regret posting.[/QUOTE]

Jerry,

I am new to this forum, but as I understand how forums are suppose to work it's based on communication of ideas and opinions. I don't think you have anything to apologize for at all. I for one have appreciated your posts, your views, ideas and you honestly tried to help with someone that was having a problem that was asking for ideas. I actually think Harry tried what you said and he said it worked and he was going to try it with live rounds yesterday afternoon. Hopefully he reports back because I would like to know since still learning a great deal about these guns.

Keep up the good work. Btw sometimes printed words come across as harsh and critical especially in quickly worded posts. Sometimes messages can be sent in a way similar to beer muscles and no way would someone comment that way to your face.

You are obviously a conscientious man to even post a second guess of your thought and as I am just someone from the peanut gallery I would like to Thank You and others that take time to share their advice, opinions and knowledge, there should never be any problem or censorship of that ever. I think that is cannon of American Society we seem to be loosing our way on and it starts in nooks and cranny's of our psyche, even in places like this forum.

BTW since its President's Day will share one of my all time favorite passages and wish Americans today could embrace some of these words and take them to heed.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

Teddy Roosevelt, April, 1910- Heyday of when Parker Guns were in production by a man that appreciated fine guns. Most of the fellas and ladies that are on this forum are learned people that are familiar with this quote so will spare you the larger context what was intended in Teddy's parody.

Okay stepping off my soapbox now.