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Unread 01-17-2018, 10:27 AM   #91
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Yes, I love my doubles and all, but there is nothing like the shock and awe value of clicking a pump gun right before you fire.
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Unread 01-17-2018, 10:51 AM   #92
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I'd like to find a app for my phone which represents the slam closing of a pump shotgun
An empty gun is not of much use, unless its a pump shotgun. Anyone that knows that sound and hears that action knows what it means. I'd say its the next best thing to a warning shot, without being a warning shot. It also has a distinct sound for when that shell rattles around and then hits the tube as opposed to just working the action.

I have Browning BPS turkey gun with synthetic stock that has a 25 inch barrel, and day glow sites. It can shoot 3.5 inch shells and I keep two in the magazine with #4 shot and I have a cylinder choke in it.

I even have a script that I have practiced in my mind. Work the action loudly and aggressively, and then tell them I have a gun and have already called the police. If they have not already left the premises at that point I figure its go time.
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Working the action on a pump gun is like hearing a rattlesnake.When you hear it you know exactly what it is and start looking for an exit.
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Working the action on a pump gun is like hearing a rattlesnake.When you hear it you know exactly what it is and start looking for an exit.
many many years ago- someone was trying to break into house i had then

as i kicked the front door to the porch open i racked the foreend on the pump gun i had then-

whoever it was ran full speed into an August cornfield and kept going- that cannot have felt good
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The click of a pump gun and the rattle of a rattlesnake are two sounds that you never forget, once you hear once.
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I'd like to find a app for my phone which represents the slam closing of a pump shotgun
Here is one, I'm sure there are others.....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...gun.free&hl=en
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Ill stick with easing off the safety toggle on the AR, or if time, easing the hammer back on my SIG so that round 1 is SA. In a "middle of the night" scenario, and someone kicks in your bedroom door, there is no time to fumble for a slide release, and chamber a round. And even if you did have that luxury of time, in a dark house, you just let someone know that #1 you are there, and where you are. An intruder jacked up on crack or PCP is just as likely to begin throwing lead AT the sound as run.

One of my good friends that knows that I have carried concealed for 20 years once asked me, "you don't carry that thing with a round in the chamber do you?", my reply was, that if I am going to carry something for self defense all of the time that weighs 2 pounds, and I was not carrying it in battery, then I might as well carry a brick, as there are no rules or licensing regarding the possession of a brick, and in a typical self defense situation, a brick is at least as effective as a gun not in battery, mavbe more! because the bad guy might not shoot or stab you for brandishing a brick, but most certainly might if you fumble with a pistol trying to "rack the slide".
While I totally support the expansion of the concealed carry opportunities in this country, I am also of the opinion that the general public, is woefully under trained and ill informed about the actual process of carrying a defensive firearm. They rely on their in depth knowledge of firearms thru television cop shows, where the officer gets out of the car and "racks the slide" on his piece before knocking on a door. In the vast majority of forces, you would receive a write up in your file if another office discovered that you were not carrying "in battery". That is the reason so many departments have gone to DA only, or striker fired pistols, in lieu of 1911's, as in order to be truly in battery, a 1911 must be carried "cocked and locked", and it freaks "Joe Citizen" out when they see that pistol in an Officers holster with the hammer jacked back. Not knowing that that gun is no less ready to go, that the guy next to him with a glock.

All of the above though is not nearly as important as a good home security system and plan, good self awareness and situational awareness. Staying away from trouble is the best plan!!
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We need to update the Parker Story and include the Stagecoach Model......I just checked and it's doesn't have a chapter about this special model..........
Eric, get Richie cracking on that new chapter on this new found Parker history!! I’m sure he could spin a good yarn on the “Parker Coach Gun”.
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Hollywood loves the "...shock and awe value of clicking a pump gun...", as well. And exploits it at every opportunity. It does so the extent where, as the miscreant aggressor makes each additional incremental, menacing step forward, the armed defender just works the clashing slide yet again! In movie-land, if it the sound makes for a stand-alone mini-dramatic moment, why limit the sound of chambering yet another round to just once?



When my father was first issued a permit to carry a firearm for defensive purposes, at the conclusion of the interview, he asked the issuing officer how best to stop an aggressor. In a life-threatening situation, should he (mercifully) fire at a shoulder or limb, so as to avoid any loss of life? The police officer quickly stopped that train of thought and just said...."between the eyes".


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Hollywood loves the "...shock and awe value of clicking a pump gun...", as well. And exploits it at every opportunity. It does so the extent where, as the miscreant aggressor makes each additional incremental, menacing step forward, the armed defender just works the clashing slide yet again! In movie-land, if it the sound makes for a stand-alone mini-dramatic moment, why limit the sound of chambering yet another round to just once?

To further illustrate the "Hollywood/Liberal" mindset, if a Parker had black Ryanite stock and forend it becomes an 'assault weapon' simply because of how it looks... and they would want to take it away from us.





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