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you could always get a 45acp and burn it up 6 grains at a pop
Hmmmm I wouldn't mind another 1911 but no I'm not loading for pop pop pop pistol stuff . I saw one 12 gauge load that was down below 7000 with1 1/4 ounces shot . I may try that in some 10 gauge hulls in my Ithaca NID fluid steel gun . And if it doesn't seem to bad who knows .
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