AAHE 20 Gauge

[Craig Budgeon]

Edgar I believe that when these upgraded guns were created in the '40s and '50s for the executives of Remington and DuPont, they probably viewed these guns as much Parker as those produced in Meridan. By upgrading existing guns they could have a new Parker and no one cared rather it was a prewar or postwar built Parker. Between Remingtons Custom Shop, Runge, and DelGrego I assume that some beautiful Parker were acquired by their new owners at a very favorable price. Different times, different views.

[Craig Budgeon]

Edgar, I assume you never had a receiver torch colored by Lefever Arms either.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon

Edgar I believe that when these upgraded guns were created in the '40s and '50s for the executives of Remington and DuPont, they probably viewed these guns as much Parker as those produced in Meridan. By upgrading existing guns they could have a new Parker and no one cared rather it was a prewar or postwar built Parker. Between Remingtons Custom Shop, Runge, and DelGrego I assume that some beautiful Parker were acquired by their new owners at a very favorable price. Different times, different views.

Craig, if I may ask, which upgraded guns are you referring to?





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[Craig Budgeon]

I know of 2 upgraded Parkers owned by decendents of Remington executives 1 being that BHE 28 the other a DHE 20. The BHE has been mentioned briefly in a DGJ article(?) and The DHE was owned by an officer of Remington Arms. I'm vague because I have promised to protect his identity. The current owner of the BHE has been very forthcoming about the culture at Remington around this time since his dad was hired post WWII and was promoted throughout his career there.

[Dean Romig]

Ok thanks Craig - so execs owning upgraded Parkers represent only a tiny percentage of the upgrades. That makes sense.





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[Craig Budgeon]

I can't answer that question about quantity but I certainly think it started in Remingtons factory and I believe part of the reason was they didn't want to be out done by the boys at Olin/ Winchester with there 21's. Upgrades seemed popular in the 70's about that time I heard someone had an Invincible built for 40K but no name was attached nor gun appeared. Finally after 47 years I'have yet to see an upgrade L.C. Smith, Fox, or Lefever or even known of 1.

[Dean Romig]

Not a question really Craig. Remington also had the Model 32. It was also a fine gun and lent itself to upgrades as well.

I'm sure there are Fox upgrades and I know there are Lefever upgrades, there being virtually no remaining Lefever factory records in existence. Can't really imagine an LC Smith upgrad though....





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[Craig Budgeon]

Dean, I have picked up 1 Mod. 32 and seen atleast one other in my lifetime. I know of no collectors and never seen one change hands. Add the previous facts plus the fact I have never seen an upgraded L.C. Smith, Fox, and Lefever and it sure looks like I've led sheltered life. Maybe so, but right now I'm tired and need my sleep so Ican eat lots of stuffing and apple pie tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving Dean, the time you devote to this forum is appreciated by this member. Thanks, Craig.

[C.O.B.]

Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon

Finally after 47 years I'have yet to see an upgrade L.C. Smith, Fox, or Lefever or even known of 1.

I have a Lefever 16ga Optimus that is a beautiful gun and an upgrade.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon

Edgar, I assume you never had a receiver torch colored by Lefever Arms either.

No, but that's kind of a strange question. Was there a point to it? Have I ever said anything to lead you to believe I had a receiver torch colored by anyone?