28 Gauge Winchester/Parker Reproduction

[Autumn Daze]

Mr Mason,Although the single trigger in my Repro has been completely trouble free so far I like the versatility of a double trigger gun. Single triggers in a double gun can be troublesome if they get out of wack.There are only a few gunsmiths that fully understand the workings of a Parker single trigger.

There is no simpler trigger mechanism than a double trigger....and simple is good

[Graham Mason]

Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Mr Mason,Although the single trigger in my Repro has been completely trouble free so far I like the versatility of a double trigger gun. Single triggers in a double gun can be troublesome if they get out of wack.There are only a few gunsmiths that fully understand the workings of a Parker single trigger.

There is no simpler trigger mechanism than a double trigger....and simple is good

Thank-you for the reply,Dave.

I have two 28 gauge double shotguns.One is an AYA with double triggers and the other is a Winchester Model 23 with a single trigger.Have not had any trouble with either of them.Having said that I must add that the Winchester Model 23 has seen little use while the AYA has seen a lot of use.

I like the double triggers, the only time I would like to have the single trigger is when hunting in the winter when wearing heavy gloves or mittens.At that time I find the single trigger a little easier to use.

[SXS OHIO]

All factory production info has been lost...We think from previos interveiws with Jack Skues that 3500 28ga. guns were made in all the grades. Double trigger guns are scarce in the market...1/2 to 3/4 of the production was single trigger models. The folks who own the DT guns are not selling them very often and way less come availible for sale. No there is nothing defective in the making of the SST system, most reported troubles trace back to need of a good cleaning or sear ajustment at worst. Most parts will interchange....I have been told the ejector system was up graded or improved??? Plan to pay 4K for an average 28ga. repro 26" ic/mod SST , 5-6K for DT, beaver tail option or DT-28" barrels set and 6-7K up for a scarce DT two barrel set. I realy like shooting them! The future is bright for the repro's, prices will continue up. Anyone wanting one needs to act....The big boys keep asking more and more $$$$ with each listing......Cabela's now has a 20 set listed at 8K 6-6500.00 was the norm for a set like it I thought! Game Fair has a nice .28 listed Dt-PG-BTF 26" ic/mod...sweet! thanks all, Kenny Graft SXS ohio

[Bill Murphy]

G., the 28 serial numbers began with a "28", whether a one barrel set or a two barrel set. There are no 20-28 sets. The 28 was built on the 00 frame and the 20 was built on the 0 frame. They do not fit back and forth. The 16-20 set was made from a 20 gauge gun and the serial number begins with a "20". The 28 inch barrel gun is hard to find for sale and sells for more than the 26 inch barrel gun. For future collector appreciation, the best buy is a two barrel set that includes a 26 and a 28 inch barrel set.

[Graham Mason]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

G., the 28 serial numbers began with a "28", whether a one barrel set or a two barrel set. There are no 20-28 sets. The 28 was built on the 00 frame and the 20 was built on the 0 frame. They do not fit back and forth. The 16-20 set was made from a 20 gauge gun and the serial number begins with a "20". The 28 inch barrel gun is hard to find for sale and sells for more than the 26 inch barrel gun. For future collector appreciation, the best buy is a two barrel set that includes a 26 and a 28 inch barrel set.

Thank-you for the reply,Bill.

From what I understand there was a Winchester Parker DHE small gauge combo,with 28 gauge and .410 barrels.I will assume that the serial numbers for these shotguns began with 28 as well.

In a book that I started reading today there is a section about the Winchester Parker.There is a picture of a Winchester Parker 28 gauge that has a serial number of 28-4037.If the serial numbers started at 1 this would seem to indicate more than 3500 28 gauge shotguns being produced.Does anyone know what serial number the 28 gauge Winchester Parker shotguns started with?

The book also states that DHE,BHE and A-1 Special grades were listed for the 28 gauge.The last two grades were offered between 1987 and 1989.Any thoughts on this?

[Joe Bernfeld]

Sounds right to me. I found my January/February, 1990 issue of Shooting Sportsman magazine, in which Reagent Chemical and Research (owners of the company; Winchester was contracted to make the guns at Olin-Kodensha in Japan) advertised that the guns were discontinued as of December, 1989. They claimed to have many unsold guns, as well as spare parts and extra bbls to last for years. Alas, a flood at the warehouse damaged the spare parts which were then never sold (liability?). There were, however, many closeout guns which sold for less than MSRP right after the company closed. Great bargains; I wish I had bought a few . After 20 years, the guns have barely doubled in value, which is quite a bargain considering inflation and how much some other guns have gone up in value in the same time! And by the way G., FYI, they are more commonly referred to as Parker Reproductions (or Repros), not Winchester Parkers.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=288
This might help with your serial # questions. The 20/16 ga 2 bbl sets were numbered 20-XXXX, the 28/.410 sets were numbered 28-XXXX.
By the way, I hate calling you "G". What is your first name. I believe the forum rules require your "real first and last name."
Joe

[Graham Mason]

Originally Posted by Joe Bernfeld

By the way, I hate calling you "G". What is your first name. I believe the forum rules require your "real first and last name."
Joe

Thank-you for the information,Joe.

Most everyone calls me by my last name,Mason.There are a few who call me Mace, as a nick name.

I called the reproductions Winchester Parker as I assumed there were other reproductions besides the ones made by Winchester ,I just wanted to be clear that I was not referring to those.It would appear that the Winchester ones are the only Parker reproductions ever manufactured?

[Autumn Daze]

Mace(if I may call you that) There currently are Parker 28 gauge guns being made by CT Shotgun Mfg.Co under contract for Remington Arms. They are AAHE grade guns and a bit pricey at $50,000.
They are advertised as new Parker shotguns not reproductions.