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Dean that might be a problem with the 8 gauge since I do not reload, I have letters that state the shot size on most but with the age and use I figure they will not pattern the same, this will be a new thing for me so if any of you have suggestions let me know. This will be a winter project good lord willing since I will be traveling off and on till November I will look to see if the letter on the 8 states shot size if so maybe a member can load a couple for me. Gary
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