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Yes, CAC had two large van trucks at Elysburg, both stuffed with components and pallets of 12-gauge shells for the Trap shooting venue. It's been years since I saw that variety of powders and components available in one place and at one time. I'm changing over to Alliant powders for my more modern shotguns and it was good to get more E3 which has been ~impossible to find in 8 pounders.