who got it

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon

Gun was posted on gunsinternational late last week thru yesterday. Deans post refers to the gun as a project gun but I find it misleading to call it a project gun. To the members who missed it, you wouldn't be disappointed had you had the chance to view it.

Dean's terminology was absolutely on the mark. Those who know Tony, know he does not "publish " the faults and leaves it to the seasoned collector with the knowledge and wherewithal to take this from a 'sow's ear' to a silk purse. There are a few qualified smiths who know what the gun should end up looking like, and for sure, the last one missed the mark. The Brady case was a teaser.

[Craig Budgeon]

With a chance of annoying Edgar again, I referred to the quote Dean made of his (friend) in his post of the gun being a project gun. To me that gun would be considered a shooter at best if safe and a parts gun if not. I am not sure anyone can RESTORE that gun and recoup his investment in equal dollars. Oh by the way I have known Tony Galazan for over 40 years and have done business with him since 1986 on a regular basis.

[Dean Romig]

Everyone has his own opinion and is entitled to it. In my opinion it has distinct possibilities.





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[edgarspencer]

No worries Craig, You didn't annoy me. I simply felt Deans description that the gun was a project was correct. As it is, it may be a shooter. I wouldn't say from the pictures that could be determined. In my view, it is not only a project, it's a very worthy project, because the receiver is so interesting. Guns with absent dolls heads, are rare and were usually ordered by professional shooters, so Larry's comment about the letter is equally pertinent.

Knowing Tony as you do, I'm surprised we haven't met, as Tony and I hung out together regularly at Safari, usually in the basement, from the mid 70s.

[Kirk Pfeffer]

Would it be possible to see some pictures or the listing number?
Thanks
Kirk

[Dean Romig]

At the time of the sale the entire ad was pulled from the Gunsinternational web page.





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[Double Play]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

I wonder if the buyer will share the letter, when he gets it.

Some times you take a chance and things work out and some times they don't. Chuck did a great job digging up info that helped answer many of the questions regarding this gun. It seems the fellow that ordered this gun had a similar gun about 1500 numbers earlier as he ordered a second set of barrels for both guns with some pretty specific details that are probably related to the aftermarket ejector system on both barrel sets. I believe the first set was cut to 26" and the 30"s are the second set as the chokes match the letter. The lack of a dolls head and the special scroll engraving are also noted in the letter. The gun was originally a PG but was requested to be cut to SG although I can't be sure the gun wears it's original stock regardless of the fact that it's stamped correctly. Below is what I received today and shows why we are so lucky the PGCA has this information and guy's like Mark Conrad earlier and Chuck Bishop today that are willing to work for the organization to make these letters available to us.

Parker shotgun, serial number 91964, was ordered by N.T. DePauw at Camp DePauw, Crooked Lake, IN on April 27, 1899 and shipped on September 8, 1899. According to Parker Bros. Order Book No. 47, it was a CH hammerless, 20-gauge. It featured Titanic steel barrels with a length of 30 inches. Special requests were: RH almost cylinder, LH close, No extended rib, No shield, 2 9/16 chamber, Trigger pull 3 ½ pounds, Scroll engraving, Silver sight, Stock 1 ½” thick at butt, For-end narrow, Trigger guard extra light small bow. The order was placed by du Bray.

The price was $150.00.

According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 33, the stock configuration was a pistol grip and its specifications were: Lengths of Pull: 14 3/32”, 14 6/16”, 14 13/16”, Drop at Heel: 2 13/16”, Drop at Comb: 1 ¾”, Weight: 5 pounds and 13 ounces.

According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 56, the gun was returned by N.T. DePauw of Woodruff, WI on March 17, 1902. The request was to fit 30”, 20ga. barrels to both guns. RH 7/8 choke, LH full. For S/N 90585 the request was to fit split extractors if stem size is same as old ones, if not, bore for regular extractors and send borings for split extractors. The price was $50.00. For S/N 91694, the request was to cut P.G. off and make it straight. “Wants extractor holes exact same size as on old barrels, if can do so.” The price was $50.00.

[Dean Romig]

Great provenance and history. Thanks Larry and thank you too chuck!






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[edgarspencer]

That is a fantastic letter and eliminates a lot of doubts. Now to just get it stock long enough so Deb doesn't claim it.

[Dean Romig]

Deb already has a CHE to shoot... but you can never have too many Parkers, and as I recall, she also has an AH two-barrel set...






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