The A-1 Special 20 Gauge at Julia's 4-11-17

[David Noble]

Why would the Lefever/Parker breech loading drilling in 12x12 x .38-55 need a bullet starter for the muzzle? Isn't it more likely a cleaning attachment to protect the rifling?

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/1429-396/

[Dean Romig]

A very strange apparatus for sure.

I'll bet the operator's manual recommends removing it before firing the shotgun barrels...






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[Big D]

Here's what happens if you don't remove the bore sighter from you rifle

[Bill Murphy]

Eric, there were two A-1 Special upgrades that were associated with Forrest Marshall, #1424 hammered at $14,000 and #1425, hammered at $5000. I would love to have one of Thierry's A-1s for $5000, but I don't think they would have let me have it.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

A very strange apparatus for sure.

I'll bet the operator's manual recommends removing it before firing the shotgun barrels....

That's why there is a protrusion above the sight. I've had some beautiful muzzle loading target rifles, and a Whitney & Ball rifle that was used by a Union sniper, that had the original starter. I traded that one for an 0 frame 16ga lifter that someone keeps sticking under my nose.

[10 bore]

Originally Posted by John Dallas

Here's what happens if you don't remove the bore sighter from you rifle

now you can stand it up and make a lamp out of it

[Rick Riddell]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

Strikes me as fiction to suggest a gun has a "real value" that is somehow higher than what the gun brought at one of the country's most well-known, well-advertised and well-attended auctions. Bottom-feeders versus pipe-dreamers, what's the difference? The hammer tells the "true value."

-Victor

I totally agree, what is "real value" vs "desired value"? Or is value determined by how much someone overpaid for an item?

[Dean Romig]

With regard to high-condition, high-grade, small-bore Parkers... the gun itself determines the value and only a very few can step up to the plate and confirm that value.

It's called "Putting your money where your mouth is."

PS, I'm not one of those guys, unfortunately....






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[Rick Riddell]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

With regard to high-condition, high-grade, small-bore Parkers... the gun itself determines the value and only a very few can step up to the plate and confirm that value.

It's called "Putting your money where your mouth is."

PS, I'm not one of those guys, unfortunately....






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Same here, I just find it very interesting. Big money brings big prices, but if big money isnt there, values drop. Seems cyclic, bamboo rod market was the same, just seems if people over pay, as such in a auction setting where desire in the driving force once that desire is filled shouldnt the prices eventually level out to more of a realistic value? But instead the prices remain at the desired value. I find it very fascinating, sellers desire to gain and the buyers desire to lose, money that is! Any ways, whoever got it has a cherished items worth every cent paid!

[Dean Romig]

Even in a severely deflated economy these kinds of guns would still change hands.... privately, and still maintain their value, in my opinion. A great many of the finest guns change hands without the public ever knowing of it. The best ones will always hold their value... and 'throwing their money away' is never a consideration.





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