Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 04-05-2017, 08:45 AM   #1
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 16,710
Thanks: 6,886
Thanked 10,093 Times in 5,344 Posts

Default

Which ones are safe and which ones are unsafe? I can't get my arms around that newfangled fluid steel yet.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 04-05-2017, 03:13 PM   #2
Member
Drew Hause
Forum Associate
 
Drew Hause's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,291
Thanks: 381
Thanked 4,337 Times in 1,406 Posts

Default

Just a reminder.
Double Gun Journal Vol. 10, Issue 4, Winter, 1999, “Finding Out For Myself” Part II and Vol. 16, Issue 2, Summer 2005, Part IX, Sherman Bell's destructive testing of Parker GH Dam3 and VH Vulcan Steel. Both guns were subjected to sequentially higher pressure loads at about 2,000 pounds/square inch (psi) increments. The GH testing started at 11,900 psi and one chamber ruptured at 29,620 psi. The VH started with a Proof Load of 18,560 psi. Both chambers bulged at 29,620 psi and ruptured at 31,620 psi.
Drew Hause is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Drew Hause For Your Post:
Visit Drew Hause's homepage!
Unread 04-05-2017, 04:31 PM   #3
Member
Kurt Sauers
Forum Associate
 
Kurt Sauers's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 263
Thanks: 114
Thanked 321 Times in 64 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drew Hause View Post
Just a reminder.
Double Gun Journal Vol. 10, Issue 4, Winter, 1999, “Finding Out For Myself” Part II and Vol. 16, Issue 2, Summer 2005, Part IX, Sherman Bell's destructive testing of Parker GH Dam3 and VH Vulcan Steel. Both guns were subjected to sequentially higher pressure loads at about 2,000 pounds/square inch (psi) increments. The GH testing started at 11,900 psi and one chamber ruptured at 29,620 psi. The VH started with a Proof Load of 18,560 psi. Both chambers bulged at 29,620 psi and ruptured at 31,620 psi.

So what's the pressure of your typical 1 1/4 pheasant load or steel shot waterfowl load?
Kurt Sauers is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-05-2017, 05:17 PM   #4
Member
Drew Hause
Forum Associate
 
Drew Hause's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,291
Thanks: 381
Thanked 4,337 Times in 1,406 Posts

Default

Probably less than the loads for which a 12g turn-of-the-century double was designed, and certainly less than the SAAMI max.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...UOZEFU/preview

1 1/4 oz. 3 1/2 Dr. Eq. BULK Smokeless was about 11,750 psi
1 1/4 oz. 3 1/2 Dr. Eq. DENSE Smokeless was 12,600 psi
Pressure is beyond the modern SAAMI recommendation of 11,500 psi

NONE of the turn-of-the-century barrel steels were designed for steel shot Kurt
Drew Hause is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Drew Hause's homepage!
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.