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My magic ammo is 1&1/4 oz of #5's pushed by 23gr of PB in a Double AA hull. Works wonders in any high wind conditions and on home grown of wild pheasants. I do not like #4's as the break bones and I like my phesants bones all in one piece, ie tiny bone fragments to get in the way of eating. 7&1/2's will kill if you are up close and a good shot.