Kent Tungsten Matrix 12 gauge 1400 FPS safe in a 3 frame parker?

[King Cobb]

I had a friend give me a box of 12 ga 2 3/4 KTM. I imagine I could shoot this in my early 60s superposed without worry, but is this a good load for a 3 frame parker 12 gauge or should it be the lighter load they make?

Just curious of the more experienced members on here.

Thanks.

[Drew Hause]

http://www.omahamarian.org/trap/shotshellenergy.html

Recoil in an 8# gun with 1 3/8 oz. shot at 1,375 fps is 36.3 ft/lbs.
For comparison, 1 1/8 oz. at 1200 fps, (3 Dram) 7.5 # gun is 23.0 ft/lbs

You might ask the head of the stock

[OH Osthaus]

Staple time

This is why I recommend light loads for most older guns- Even if the barrels can take it, you need to think about 100 plus year old wood

I do fire the lighter Kent matrix in my 3 frame 12 VH. It had a small split started in the head. I have de oiled and reinforced it and am not worried. But I will still avoid the stiffer loads

[Drew Hause]

Or a prophylactic lag bolt

[King Cobb]

Thanks. I will save it for my superposed. Was just curious.

[Craig Budgeon]

The lag bolt repair looks like a repair that puts food on gunsmiths tables.

[Craig Larter]

OK so you guys think I'm nuts but I have a Super Fox in nice shape I shoot regularly with 1 3/8th Oz TM. That's what it was designed for and no issues so far. My 2 and 3 frame 12ga Parkers I shoot 1 1/8 Oz bismuth handloads.

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

OK so you guys think I'm nuts but I have a Super Fox in nice shape I shoot regularly with 1 3/8th Oz TM. That's what it was designed for and no issues so far. My 2 and 3 frame 12ga Parkers I shoot 1 1/8 Oz bismuth handloads.

Same as Craig, I regularly shoot the 1-3/8 ounce TM load in Super-Foxes and Winchester 21 Duck guns. Actually the later Supers were made after introduction of the 3-inch 1-5/8 ounce progressive load @ 1315 fps. I'll also shoot the Kent TM 3-inch 1-1/2 ounce load in factory chambered 3-inch Supers when conditions warrant use of the heaviest soft/non-tox shells. Same with the 21 Ducks and my Model 12 Heavy Duck pump gun.

[Kevin McCormack]

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro

Same as Craig, I regularly shoot the 1-3/8 ounce TM load in Super-Foxes and Winchester 21 Duck guns. Actually the later Supers were made after introduction of the 3-inch 1-5/8 ounce progressive load @ 1315 fps. I'll also shoot the Kent TM 3-inch 1-1/2 ounce load in factory chambered 3-inch Supers when conditions warrant use of the heaviest soft/non-tox shells. Same with the 21 Ducks and my Model 12 Heavy Duck pump gun.

Ditto Ditto Ditto! - With all the heavy clothing worn while waterfowling and the adrenaline rush when they cup their wings and drop their feet, who's thinking about felt recoil anyway! Last week at Beaver Dam we shot everything from 3" Mag 1 1/2 oz. to 2 1/2" (not a misprint!) 1 1/4 oz. Kent TM without so much as a hiccup! Big Birds; Big Guns!!

[Drew Hause]

1220 fps 3' from muzzle is 665 fps at 40 yds.
1400 fps 3' from muzzle is 691 fps at 40 yds.