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I really enjoy the Fox guns...I have been wanting a 16ga. C or CE that has good tight chokes and modern stock dimensions. That said its a scarce gun to find indeed!, and pricy too!! I have had the CE Fox that is at the Cabela's store in WV in my hands three times or more, Its really nice gun but has ton of drop...3" at the heal. I would need it re-stocked and the asking price is still way high...I think. SXS Ohio