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Charlie all I know is my guide has planted a big field of the extra large sunflowers which the doves like so much. We hunt the edges of the fields so nobody is allowed out in them for safety reasons plus let's the doves light in the middle. I have a new old toy an Ithaca 4E 20 about 1910 and 4E 16 Lewis vintage. Can't wait to try out headed to shoot spt clays with my 13 old grandson whom I bought a GH 16 for last Christmas he is my clone!!! Good luck plowing😎😎
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