California's New CC Ruling

[Dean Romig]

As far as "they" are concerned, we can hang together or we can hang separately... but hang we all will if "they" have their way.

I say we stick together - what say you?





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[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

As far as "they" are concerned, we can hang together or we can hang separately... but hang we all will if "they" have their way.

I say we stick together - what say you? .

I'm with you Dean. It is documented in plans on anti-gun groups to chip away at gun rights, on at a time. Finally they plan to tax the heck of ammo and guns so that while we may still have the right to a muzzleloader, very few will be able to afford them!

Besides, the second amendment isn't about antique collector guns as much as it is about having the ability as a people to defend against a tyrannical government. I can think of better weapons than a Parker or Colt SAA for that. I however pray I never see the need. But hey, as long as a good portion of the American population has Parkers, Colts, bolt action rifles, AR's and AK's we never will have a tyrannical government!

[10 bore]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

As far as "they" are concerned, we can hang together or we can hang separately... but hang we all will if "they" have their way.

I say we stick together - what say you?





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we are in the pot of water , they are slowly turning up the heat, before you know it, we are cooked! with you Dean, stick together!

[stumpstalker]

However subject to personal interpretation, historical context, etc., the document preponderantly imposes limitations on government, relative to the individual, and not the other way around.

We have the law largely on our side; the political culture is another matter.

Take a non-shooter -- better yet, his whole family -- shooting.
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THE BILL OF RIGHTS – FULL TEXT
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.