Case colors for the Trojan

[StubTwist]

I favor Turnbull as well.

http://www.turnbullmfg.com/gun/parker-trojan-16-ga/

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

But first...... before you go down a path from which you cannot return,,,, are you sure it needs to be re-cased?
Why not post some pictures? If it is an honest gun with traces of case in the corners so to speak, you will kill the value by re-casing it.
If you are not concerned about value and just want to hunt or shoot some clays, then why do it?
A 20 gauge Trojan is a choice gun and becoming choicer by the day, But that's my crazy opinion.

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by George M. Purtill

But first...... before you go down a path from which you cannot return,,,, are you sure it needs to be re-cased?
Why not post some pictures? If it is an honest gun with traces of case in the corners so to speak, you will kill the value by re-casing it.
If you are not concerned about value and just want to hunt or shoot some clays, then why do it?
A 20 gauge Trojan is a choice gun and becoming choicer by the day, But that's my crazy opinion.

I agree, But Some don't think twice about re-coloring a 75% or better gun. You woild be surprised.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

I agree, But Some don't think twice about re-coloring a 75% or better gun. You woild be surprised.

There is certainly the case for re-casing. I have done it in a reclamation situation. And the fellows mentioned will do well.
But I think of myself as a caretaker of these guns. Hopefully my next generation will do the same and on and on. But if they had to get money out of them for whatever reason, they will get more for an original gun at 25% plus they will get the cash I didn't spend on re-casing. But that's only my analysis.

[Bill Murphy]

Turnbull's shop did my old VH 12 a few years ago and it is outstanding.

[BRDHNTR]

Would you re-case color this frame?

[Autumn Daze]

No way

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by allen newell

Would you re-case color this frame?

Absolutely not.

It's important that you give consideration to many other factors, besides the amount of remaining color. In most circumstances, the metal gets some degree of polishing, and this may impact the quality and crispness of the original engraving. A proper reheat treatment (after all, case hardening is a heat treatment)will involve a stress relieve cycle after the quench cycle. This will only marginally soften the case (very shallowest surface) the more highly engraved a gun is, the greater that plays into the treatment(s). Each and every heating and cooling cycle is an opportunity for distortion.

The above is fact ,from which I draw 35 years of experience in metalurgy.
The following is opinion;
Brad Bachelder has shown, in dozens of guns we have seen in Parker Pages, and elsewhere, to have the best heat treatment practice when it comes to reproducing Meriden colors. Turnbull can closely approximate early Winchester colors on forged receivers, and barely comes close to the all time famous Colt SAA receiver colors. He does not, in my mindcome close to Meriden Bone, Leather, Charcoal case hardening colors.
When to do it? It's your gun, you decide. I doubt seriously I would consider doing it to a gun exhibiting 35-40% colors or more.

[David Penland]

I really appreciate everyone's opinion! Thank you all. As I have been disassembling the Trojan, I am fascinated and very impressed at the work that was put into this gun. I am confident this gun has never been opened up. So many of the parts are stamped with the serial # and the fit of all the parts is awesome. When I purchased the gun it had been neglected, the barrels on the outside had many rust spots as well as the receiver. I think to begin with I will just clean everything up and shoot the gun to begin with. I will post pictures as I make progress. I am attaching a couple of pics to give an idea of what I am up against.