question

[Mike Stahle]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

I am at work and don't have my reference material with me, however when Hammer Doubles was making brass that would take 209 primers their loading data with fiber wads and over shot card took more powder to get the same velocity. The pressures were alot lower as well. If I can remember when I get off the tractor tonight, I will post what 12 gauge data I have for fiber wads. Balistics Products "Mighty Ten" manual has fiber wad data for the 10 gauge if I remember correctly. Again, I will try to look it up if I can remember between now and this evening.

Harry

Thanks Harry,
I for one would be very interested in this info.

Mike

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, what kind of powder are you using in the shells that last 15 loadings? Do you use a resizer to get past the industrial shell brass or do you peel the brass away?

[10ga Hammer]

FWIW, Plastic hulls mentioned about halfway down the page.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

[Mike Stahle]

Originally Posted by Robert Rambler

FWIW, Plastic hulls mentioned about halfway down the page.

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

Thanks Robert,

I will add the Paragraph from the web site.

"Plastic Shells. Plastic shells get sort of melted on the inside when fired with black powder and will not take a crimp after about 2 or 3 firings. Just accept it and throw them away. Paper shells work fine; they were originally designed for black powder.
I normally use plastic. It is easier to obtain and is easier to trim and crimp."

Now if you'r like me I am like the Charlie Daniels song, “The Legend Of Wooley Swamp”

But I couldn't believe it. I just had to find out for myself.
And I couldn't conceive it 'Cause I never would have listened
to nobody else.

[charlie cleveland]

bill i am using alliant blue dot powder.the 8 ga winschester shells were resized by tom armbrust. he has adye that will compress the brass in one step.a guy used to sell these resizer but alas he no longer makes them to sell. i tried to get one from him but no luck. tom arbrust sells these shells at a really good price.bill he has a good book out about 8 ga and 4 bore guns and ammo.it has a lot of reloading stuff in there for the big guns. charlie ps. ive probly shot arond 500 of the loads in a parker hammer gun and destreys old fa lommis.

[Harry Collins]

Ok girls, it's past my bed time, but I'll give one of the loads Hammer Doubles listed for their brass hulls and WW 209 primers. These were tested by Tom in McHenry, Il. 1 1/8 oz shot, 32 grains of IMR 7625, 1 over powder card, 2 cushion wads, 1 over shot card = 1154 fps @ 3350 fps.

Will try to post some more in the morning.

Harry

[Mike Stahle]

Originally Posted by Harry Collins

Ok girls, it's past my bed time, but I'll give one of the loads Hammer Doubles listed for their brass hulls and WW 209 primers. These were tested by Tom in McHenry, Il. 1 1/8 oz shot, 32 grains of IMR 7625, 1 over powder card, 2 cushion wads, 1 over shot card = 1154 fps @ 3350 fps.

Will try to post some more in the morning.

Harry

Wow! that's indeed a low pressure load (3350)

[Harry Collins]

What I find troubling about the Hammer Double load is the amount of powder used. My IMR 7625 load is WW209 primer, AA hull, 22.5 grains powder, CB1118-12 wad and 1 1/8 oz shot yielding 1145 fps @ 6500 psi! I don't know the difference between the friction in a brass hull compared to plastic, but I would not start with 30 something grains of powder in a plastic hull and fiber wads.

Harry