Your other favorite shotgun - Page 4

Blind Dog · 05-10-2010, 08:51 PM

Bill, I have not used that round as intended, but the books indicate that it is the same as a rimmed H&H .375. I recently bought 20 of those cases and put them in the little Turkish 410 and fired formed them to fit. Today I tested 6 rounds with 20g 4659 and 7/8oz with no pressure signs but pretty good recoil. I haven't patterned it yet, but it cut a lot of leaves of the backyard trees.

Bindlestiff · 05-10-2010, 08:56 PM

John,

I sold a gun like yours at the Vintagers in New York a few years ago, I wonder if its the same one. Mine had a trapdoor bullet holder in the stock, set trigger for the rifle and claw scope mounts, as well as the pop up blade sight. Could it be the same gun I wonder?

Double Trouble · 05-11-2010, 09:28 AM

Robin:

Mine doesn't have the claw scope mounts, but it does have a bullet trap underneath the stock (at the toe) and the set trigger.
The 9.3 x 74 R is a powerful shell, but the 9.3x72 R is akin to a 38-55 Winchester.

Damn neat little gun !

Double Trouble · 05-11-2010, 10:37 AM

16 gauge was (and still is, I think...) very popular in Germany back in the early 20th century (my drilling is ca. 1904), but they made other chamberings - especially in later years.

The 38-55 was conceived as a BP round, but - like the 45-70 - did get a lot of smokeless loading over the years. Winchester still loads it, but the 255 grain bullet is loaded to the rather amemic velocity of 1300 fps. In my old M. 1894 Winchester rifle, I used to load cast bullets (265 grains, I think) with smokeless powder loads that sent the bullet out at closer to 1600 - 1700 fps. At these higher velocitiess, it'll kill any deer in the woods & was one helluva accurate gun/ammo combo ! (Real quality on that old 1894, ca. 1899)

C Roger Giles · 05-11-2010, 01:38 PM

Peter Clark;

Ole' Roger, blew the muzzel off an identical Remington that was my grandad's gun, net result was hell in camp for a few days for me.

Grandad hacksawed of the destroyed muzzel crooked as all get out. I eventually inherited the gun and like a damn fool traded it off with regrets a plenty since.

Roger

Bill Murphy · 05-11-2010, 02:58 PM

Fred, the 9.3X72 is nowhere similar to a .375 H&H. You are confusing the 9.3X72 with the 9.3X74, which is a load closer in power to the .375 H&H.

Blind Dog · 05-11-2010, 05:36 PM

Yes Bill, I misread John's post about his neat combo. I used 9.3x94 cases to make 410 brass. I once had a beatup 94 octagonal bbl. rifle in 38-55, but it's long gone. Someone else wanted it more than I did.

TARNATION !!! · 05-11-2010, 05:59 PM

The 'other favorites' are also into rifles now. A favorite for me is another old family gun. Took my first deer and first moose with it. It is a Model 94 Winchester (octagon barreled) in 30-30. Another very rough gun that I had refurbished back in the mid '80's, including new wood, but didn't reassemble until sometime in the mid '90's. Haven't used it since, as I have passed on big game and just chase upland birds. It rests in the "steel tomb" but looks very nice when some light is shed upon it.
Cheers,
Jack

Richard Flanders · 05-11-2010, 11:20 PM

Jack: I took my first(and 3d... and 4th) moose and my first(and 2nd ... and 3d caribou... and first bear with an old Winchester lever gun also, an 1887 vintage mod 1886 winchester in .45-90. It is somehow immensely satisfying when you pull the trigger on a magnificent old gun like that and that big old 405gr lead bullet that you cast using the wood stove for a heat source reaches out there and bowls your dinner for the next 3 yrs over...!

TARNATION !!! · 05-12-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Flanders

.... and bowls your dinner for the next 3 yrs over...!

Richard: That's one of the reasons I decided to limit myself to upland birds. If I need an occasional taste, I can always come up with it. I've tried for years to get my wife intrigued with big game meat but it's not to her liking, although she enjoyed antelope and non-trophy rocky mountain sheep when we were much (very much) younger. While one can do almost anything with various spices and marinades, my top to bottom preferences for the actual taste of the meat is mountain sheep, antelope, white tail, caribou, elk, mulie and moose (they are all good). Never had mountain goat or dall sheep. These days, bison is available at the butcher shop. If I were to slip that into the list, it would rate close to the top.

Well now, you have me thinking I might have to let the old '94 see the light of day again.
Cheers,
Jack

Love this world but won't be climbing around here any more.