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We still have not been told the length of pull or butt treatment. In case that doesn't mean anything to the price, I have a pair of nice original DHE 20s with 13 inch stocks, recoil pads, that I would be happy to sell for about half of what some here are mentioning as the right price. Skeleton butt, 14" length, $8000. Recoil pad, 13" stock, $5500.