Denser patterns

[wayne goerres]

I was using one of Charlie's favorite loads. 1/8oz no fours 19grs Red Dot in a Remington hull cut down to 2 7/8" with a Rem SP 10 wad and a Win 209 primer. I am not sure about the chokes on the gun. I don't have anything to measure them with properly. Still pretty limited on what you can get your hands on to load with in this area. Would 7625 be a better choice for hunting loads than Red Dot.

[10 bore]

are you putting the filler wad in the bottom of your SP 10 wad? if not that will open up your pattern.

[William Davis]

No 4 is pretty big shot. If you are getting holes in the pattern might try 6 or if committed to 4 move up to 1 1/4.

William

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

I was using one of Charlie's favorite loads. 1/8oz no fours 19grs Red Dot in a Remington hull cut down to 2 7/8" with a Rem SP 10 wad and a Win 209 primer. I am not sure about the chokes on the gun. I don't have anything to measure them with properly. Still pretty limited on what you can get your hands on to load with in this area. Would 7625 be a better choice for hunting loads than Red Dot.

Wayne,

Maybe you don't have Pete's data? Go to the about the 9th reply and print the .pdf. Thanks for the spreadsheet Pete.

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...hort+load+data

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

I was using one of Charlie's favorite loads. 1/8oz no fours 19grs Red Dot in a Remington hull cut down to 2 7/8" with a Rem SP 10 wad and a Win 209 primer. I am not sure about the chokes on the gun. I don't have anything to measure them with properly. Still pretty limited on what you can get your hands on to load with in this area. Would 7625 be a better choice for hunting loads than Red Dot.

Yes I think 7625 would be a better choice for a heavier load. 32 grains of 7625 with 1 1/4 ounce is a Sherman Bell load that develops 6700 psi and 1170 fps. I'd feel comfortable upping it to 1 3/8 ounce but that is just me.

There is a lower pressure published load for Longshot powder using 1 3/8 ounce of Nice Shot in the Federal Hull. 8800 psi with a velocity of 1335 fps. Remember Nice Shot is loaded to lead recipes adding and additional 1500 psi. In this case you are going from Nice Shot to lead so that should be 1 3/8 of lead moving at 1335 with a pressure of 7300 psi. If it patterns well that would be a good turkey load in a composite barreled short ten.

If the Red Dot is not giving you the pattern you are looking for try 22gr of Green Dot with 1 1/8 ounce. I have used that a lot on clay pigeons. When I really want to reach out and touch crows I used 27gr of Green Dot with 1 1/4 ounce. Alliant has published loads for GD using 29 grains with 1 1/4 ounce in a 3.5" hull, pressure is 8800 psi and velocity 1265. I have shot a lot of them through a twist barrel NH without issue.

Closer is almost always better, but short tens that can pattern in the high 80 and low 90 percent at 40 yards with 1 1/4 ounce loads are very effective beyond that range. However Turkey's are not ducks.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

Closer is almost always better, but short tens that can pattern in the high 80 and low 90 percent at 40 yards with 1 1/4 ounce loads are very effective beyond that range. However Turkey's are not ducks.

I patterned one of my short tens at 40yards multiple times- 91/92 percent with lead 4s in both barrels

not that i would shoot at that range - but replicating Charlie's dr. pepper can 70yard test- 5 pellets in the can

this one is not a brush gun

[10 bore]

for my 10 ga turkey loads, i shoot 1 1/2 oz lead 6's, 38 grs bluedot, sp 10 wad, and roll crimp

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by scott kittredge

for my 10 ga turkey loads, i shoot 1 1/2 oz lead 6's, 38 grs bluedot, sp 10 wad, and roll crimp

That is one heck of a load! I can testify by the longbeard I killed dead at about forty yards in 2013. Scott sent me some to try and I still have several left over.

[William Davis]

I have gone as much as 27 grs Green Dot 1 1/4 oz shot. Safe in my Parker 10 but a little too much kick for clays. Dropped to 26 grs GD 1 1/8 oz. If hunting would use the 27 x 1 1/4 for sure.

On relative quickness charts Green Dot looks to be a good substitute for 7625

It's hard to measure 10 chokes but either load throws full choke looking patterns.

William.