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Unread 04-09-2015, 02:25 PM   #1
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I don't think comparing a reproduction Parker that cost $2500 new and a CSMC Fox that cost $30,000 new for a similar grade is a fair comparison.

And you certainly can't compare the $2,500 of thirty years ago with an equal dollar value of today and then match it against $30K.

Never the less, The CSMC Fox guns are far superior, in finish only, than the Parker Reproductions. As far as manufacturing and grade of steels used, they are probably about equal... but the Parker Repro has a great deal more machine processes required to manufacture it.

Durability and dependability goes to the CSMC Fox of course.

Let's not forget either, the niche market name of CSMC Fox and the specialized market they advertise and sell to. Mr. Skeuese was trying to make the Parker (reproduction) affordable to the average shooter/hunter. I don't think Tony uses the same marketing model.
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And you certainly can't compare the $2,500 of thirty years ago with an equal dollar value of today and then match it against $30K.

Never the less, The CSMC Fox guns are far superior, in finish only, than the Parker Reproductions. As far as manufacturing and grade of steels used, they are probably about equal... but the Parker Repro has a great deal more machine processes required to manufacture it.

Durability and dependability goes to the CSMC Fox of course.

Let's not forget either, the niche market name of CSMC Fox and the specialized market they advertise and sell to. Mr. Skeuese was trying to make the Parker (reproduction) affordable to the average shooter/hunter. I don't think Tony uses the same marketing model.
Dean you are absolutely right and that was what I was trying to say in m last post, for the dollar today, a $4500 Repro is just about the best side by side you can buy today, period. The CSMC Fox is an entirely different animal.
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And you certainly can't compare the $2,500 of thirty years ago with an equal dollar value of today and then match it against $30K.

Never the less, The CSMC Fox guns are far superior, in finish only, than the Parker Reproductions. As far as manufacturing and grade of steels used, they are probably about equal... but the Parker Repro has a great deal more machine processes required to manufacture it.

Durability and dependability goes to the CSMC Fox of course.

Let's not forget either, the niche market name of CSMC Fox and the specialized market they advertise and sell to. Mr. Skeuese was trying to make the Parker (reproduction) affordable to the average shooter/hunter. I don't think Tony uses the same marketing model.

I'd say, just for numbers sake, that CSMC fetch $30K per gun, and suppose the profit is $5K range per gun, his volume can be a heck of a lot lower and still turn the same profit as selling higher volumes of guns for $4500 and making $500/ea. Definitely a different niche, and not a bad business plan.
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