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Hi Unregistered,
On July 29th, this site will be moving..! No, really - it's "moving" to another physical location - including servers, gateways, routers - everything - including my coffee cup...
So, from the date of July 29th through July 30 or 31 (shooting for these dates, but - as always, I'm at the mercy of my ISP who has to install the lines to the new location - and we actually get them running ;) ). But - this site, cloud servers and main web will be OFF LINE.
Now, please save these dates!! Please - don't be "that guy" who emails me on the 30th to tell me you "can't open the Parker Website". I'll already know it is offline - and also know that you are "that guy"...
I'll take this notice up and down over the next week or so - and leave it up during the final few days before shutting it off on the 29th..
Had a little fun recently.
Started off picking up a Gregson 16 ga. w/original case, a nice light English gun possibly made for Gregson by Westely Richards. Got a "Gtd. by John Rigby", (Rigby warrants the gun but didn't make it), hammer gun thrown in.
Flipped the Gregson and a VH 12 for a nice VH 20 (1920) which unfortunately doesn't letter, and then traded a slightly mucked with DHE 12 I picked up from auction for a cute PH 20 (1902), 26" mirror bores, that does letter. I'll put up some pics in the Parker section on these.
The gentlemen I was trading for the Parker 20's with also had these non Parker cases. The first is a Holland and Holland which on reflection looks like it was for an 8 bore rifle, not shotgun, as I first thought. Any insight appreciated.
The second is, I believe, a 2 gun hammer case attributed to a H.J. Kennard who's family was into politics of the day and a member of the Junior Carlton Club in the UK. A now defunct gentlemen's club for Conservative party members and guests. No makers label in the case but possibly E.M.Rieley (?) Ignore the black belt it goes away soon. The carry handle is opposite the latch on the two gun case which I thought odd. Again I would appreciate any info.
No cash changed hands for the cases, the Holland case took a low grade Darne 20 ga. and the other a beater (if there is such a thing) Trojan 12 and the Rigby. I am not a case guy but liked these and any input to value would be appreciated.
I think I did OK on the Holland case but not so sure on the 2 gun case. Pictures below. The Holland is 44 x 9 1/2 x 4 so fairly big.
Apologize if wrong column to talk about cases. I haven't gone unto other sights yet as 1) I know there are some pretty skilled case guys here in PGCA and 2) I regard and trust the feedback from the PGCA members.
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The two-gun pair case is for hammer guns. And looks to be in decent condition for its age. The odd handle placement is why I am circumspect about these cases. Security straps or no, I can never feel at ease with them.
The Holland case is also nice, and appears to be modified or possibly made for a hammer gun. And indeed for an 8-bore. It might do for a 10, however.
In either case (no pun intended) do as little to restore these as possible. Their cachet rests in their age. A good case maker can help enhance them without destroying their patina. Or PM me for some basic steps.
Nice finds!
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John it is good to hear from you. That H&H case is interesting. Just imagine the monster that was once in there. I want to see that PH 20 that sound like a nice one.
Hi Eldon, likewise big guy. I was going to try to track down the date of manufacture if I could on the HH gun that it was built for. Enjoying your discussion on collecting doubles BTW. I think as long as the guns keep shooting people will be interested. I have always liked SxS guns, just took me awhile to get savvy to Parkers. This forum I believe is an outstanding mechanism to drive interest. You ever get up this way coffee on me.
A DHE 16 with straight grip was for sale about ten years ago along with letters back and forth between the owner and Dwight D. Eisenhower, a picture of Ike with the gun on a grouse hunt in NH, and Peter Johnson's book inscribed by Ike to the owner. I missed it by minutes.... $3,300... I asked the seller who bought it and he told me he would put the buyer in touch with me. The guy called the next day and told me he flipped it to Riley's gun shop in Hooksett, NH. I immediately drove to Riley's, examined the gun and asked about the letters, picture and book.... I was told by them that the guy who brought the gun in didn't bring anything else with it... The gun was for sale for $7K
Greed (and ignorance in this case) indeed!
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