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Milton the price of pin fires is rising in a hurry. Their are getting expensive. There are people hunting with them and shooting clays with them. They are driving the prices up. I believe the cartridge in the combination gun that you are referring to is a short version of the 577 snider. Will know when it comes in. If your are thinking about a pin fire make sure it is in a standard shotgun gauge (not 14ga). Guns will have to be slightly modified to shoot paper or plastic hulls.
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