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Unread 03-11-2010, 06:24 PM   #1
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I've got a lifter 10 gauge that used to belong to Austin Hogan, that's all the provenance I need. *wink*

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Unread 03-11-2010, 09:04 PM   #2
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I think Chuck H pretty much sums it up for me."My vague understanding of provenance is that continuity of documented possession and transfer is key for an item that cannot otherwise be irrefuteably validated"

In the case of "Burts Gun".... It is well documented in story and there is a solid line to Mr.Spiller plus the guns wear is consistant to the time line.

The Czars Gun provenance is foolproof.

Bo-Whoop I have been advised by several knowledgeable people that it the real deal but for the life of me I just can,t seem to get a warm and fuzzy feeling about this gun.And I really have nothing to base my uneasyness(Is that a word?) on.
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There was very little chance of establishing the original ownership provenance of Parker shotguns until 1998 when the PGCA Research Committee copied the Parker Brothers order books. The Fox records have always, at least in my collecting lifetime, been available. However, the Fox records have very little information about individual purchasers of their guns compared to information available about Parkers. Proving or claiming that someone owned a gun or shot a gun isn't too important in increasing value when such information is compared with original factory order records. Bo Whoop is backed up with factory records establishing him as the original purchaser, but so are other Fox shotguns, and maybe a Parker or two. What are those guns worth compared to Bo Whoop?
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