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Pete are you saying that Nice Shot would have higher psi than Bismuth? It would appear that 5900psi minus approx 600psi for roll crimp plus 1500psi for nice shot should be about 6800/7000psi, or am I missing something? I've only recently started to load for shotshells(0nly 10 ga so far) and I'm sure that there must be more variables then I'm familiar with at present. That's why I'm asking I need to be educated and enlightened. Thanks.