Ball grips on hammerless parkers?

[John Havard]

So would this more properly be called a "half-pistol" grip? As I recall the serialization book just says "P"

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=5723

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=5728

[Bill Murphy]

Brian, the "B" for ball grip is seen many times in later guns. If you want examples, read the list of .410 guns in the Appendix of TPS. After reading tens of thousands of order book entries, I have never seen an entry for "Uncapped Pistol Grip". True, many stock book entries for grip types do not agree with the actual gun, especially in the IBM card era. It is obvious to me that the transcribers of the records to the Serialization Book used a default entry because many cards did not mention a grip type.

[Dean Romig]

In the same Serialization Book you will see thousands of "C" entries in the S column indicating "capped pistol grip" and far, far fewer with the "P" entry for "pistol grip" which is the "half pistol grip" or "round knob" grip but also includes the true ball grip on the old hammer guns as those were also listed as a "P" in the S column.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by John Havard

So would this more properly be called a "half-pistol" grip? As I recall the serialization book just says "P"

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=5723

http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.p...pictureid=5728

Yes John and that grip is also known as a "round knob" grip.

[King Cobb]

OK yeah that is what I am referring to

[Researcher]

"Round knob" is a term used by Browning collectors to describe the grips on A5s and Superposeds. The Parker Bros. catalogues that mention this style of grip use "half-pistol grip" with or without the hyphen.

P.S. No North American manufacturer back in the day ever offered a grip called Prince of Wales (PoW). That is totally an English gun thing, until Tony offered some on A10s.

[Dean Romig]

Thanks Dave. I have heard it used in reference to Parkers half-pistol grip but never have seen "round knob" used by either Parker Bros. or Remington.

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, Parker and Remington, correctly or in error, used the term ball grip well into the hammerless era.

[Austin J Hawthorne Jr.]

John,
One of my D grades, only a few thousand numbers earlier than yours has the same rounded grip and is listed in the serialization book as "P".

[edgarspencer]

For those that missed this thread,
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5898

Bruce has posted some excellent pictures of Ball, and half pistol examples.