SBT questions; help!

[Phil Yearout]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Sorry, I must repeat that a bore diameter and choke diameter and length will tell the tale. If a guy who has sold $100,000 guns in his career doesn't own or admit to owning a choke micrometer, he is trying to cheat you. He knows the bore diameter and isn't telling you what it is.

He didn't say he couldn't measure it, he just didn't completely answer the question. I think we've alreday established that it's been cut. He knows it and we know it, so it's moot I guess. And for the record it's not Mike I'm talking to.

[Autumn Daze]

Phil, Parker Bros. advertised 30" barrels as the shortest available. I have never heard of a 28" SBT gun but that is not to say they didn't make one. This gun has clearly been cut. If it were me I would just keep looking for a nice original gun. There are several out there most of the time. The chokes in a Parker SBT are simply amazing.

[Bill Murphy]

I wonder how he got .037 of choke back into the barrel? I have discussed this gun with him over the last couple of years, but he never quite explained it to me. What is the bore diameter? Simple question, simple answer.

[B. Dudley]

I agree. A barrel that has had nearly 5" taken off of it should not have that much choke left in it.

Unless he is just measuring the muzzle diameter and assuming a .729" bore. the bore could be tighter than that from the factory.

[TOOL MAN]

Phil,

BTW, did you know you can now watch re-runs of this one on Me-TV? Perhaps a bit of food for thought?

[Phil Yearout]

OK guys, you win I give!

[Phil Yearout]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

I agree. A barrel that has had nearly 5" taken off of it should not have that much choke left in it.

Unless he is just measuring the muzzle diameter and assuming a .729" bore. the bore could be tighter than that from the factory.

I copied this from a fellow's post on the SBT forum here; maybe this explains it?

"My SC trap, however, has a long, slow choke that begins about six inches from the muzzle, starts to get warm with about 2.5 inches to go, and finishes with a half inch of parallel.

[William Davis]

It's hard to say what the price for that gun would be.

Give you some opinion based on SBT guns I am looking at. Ithca Knick restored finish not cut, LC Smith SBT not cut or cleaned , either gun would make a good shooter, sellers are asking about 1000. Friend of mine has had a Parker SBT untouched except pad added for sale few years now. I used it for a while works fine. You may find pictures on this forum using search. We are still apart on the price, starting at 3200. I think the Parker SBT is worth twice the Ithca or Smith. He thinks more. My opinion pad alteration makes a big difference, others don't discount it as much as I do.

Cut Barrel Trap gun even a Parker would not be worth anything to me.

Bill

[Autumn Daze]

Bill, SBT trap guns came equipped with a pad from the factory. Most had Hawkins but the Brothers P would install whatever the customer wanted.

[Phil Yearout]

Thanks again for all the help and opinions, Rationality won out, I'm movin' on. That $1000 range sounds good Bill; I doubt I'll ever pop for what it would take to get a Parker. Perhaps I'll come across an Ithaca or maybe a Baker that's in my price range. There are some Ithacas for sale here locally - a buggered restocked one at Cabela's which I've already dismissed and a couple of way overpriced ones at a dealer.